Hours question... is this legitimate?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Commuter69, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    730 to 330 is an eight hour sleeper berth which stops your 14 hour clock. If you could leave a little earlier from your house(if legally possible) to give yourself a little wiggle room so much the better.
     
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  3. Eddiec

    Eddiec Road Train Member

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    Once you have been assigned a dispatch, it is on duty/drive time. 395.8 The driver who uses a motor carriers CMV for transportation home, and is subsequently called by the employing carrier and is then dispatched from home, would be on-duty from the time the driver leaves home.
     
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  4. AModelCat

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    You can't use personal conveyance to move yourself into a position for a load. That's cheating.
     
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  5. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    If you're under dispatch, there is NO personal conveyance. You are going to pick up a load. If you were not under dispatch, you could go from your home to home terminal back and forth under personal conveyance. It would be the same as driving your car to the office and back every day. Do you understand what that means?

    You hear people say that it's a 'grey area'. There is a reason for that. Those who can work the system are allowed to work the system. Those who can't read between the lines won't.

    "What if I lived 120 miles from my terminal, ran a full 70 and made it back to my terminal. Could I drive my car home at the end of the week? And how would I log it?"

    If I was driving home in my truck for a 34 at the house, and I had to cross a scale, how would I log it? Off duty PC and keep track of the miles, and log the time I reached the house.
    If I were driving to work and had to cross the scale, bobtail, how would I log it? Well, when I get to the office, I'm gonna shoot the bull with the fellas, have a few cups of coffee, possibly take the Browns to the Super Bowl again, eat breakfast... And ease out in 3 hours. How would I log this? When would MY clock start? When I got dispatched. Well, when did I get dispatched?

    "But Six, what would happen if you got inspected in the scale?"

    I would have to log the inspection ON DUTY. No grey areas there.

    "But I don't want to run illegal."

    No problem. That's why it's a grey area instead of black and white.

    Edit: Now, if I was getting paid from the house to the terminal to the receiver, then it would be in black and white.
     
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  6. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    I'm going to say that the op's issue is more black and white. He has an empty trailer which he is being asked to move to the yard, which makes it on duty
     
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  7. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    This is exactly what I thought. As it turned out, it did not affect my 11/14 (just my 70). I was able to get done with my first drop and THEN LEGITIMATELY shut down before my 11/14 ticked out. I do have a 2nd drop, but not for another almost 12 hours. I was able to shut down and only have a >20 minute drive to that location,
     
  8. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    So your company schedules you an eight hour layover at the yard, a12 hour wait between two local drops, and asks you to drive dirty. You sure you're with the company you want to be with?
     
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  9. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    Of course not, just need to put some time/miles after too many preventable incidents. I am new to this company, and can put up with some crap until a real company can work with me. I am looking probably 12-18 more months at the minimum, but plan on revisiting the issue about every 4-6 months before I can jump ship (but not without another ship to jump to...)
     
  10. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    Well good luck ####ing up your career. You keep driving dirty, the wrong dot cop is going to make sure you dont drive for a company that is worth while.
     
  11. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    I didn't say anything about actually driving dirty, I just wanted to make sure I had the correct understanding and reasoning for refusing. My dispatchers know that I will, from this point forward, only fudge my logs 15-20 minutes if it means that I get to a safe place (meaning a place with facilities that even prisoners get) to shut down, but I try to plan my time so I don't have to, unless traffic / road conditions cause a problem, or Mr. Murphy chooses to screw with me.
     
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