62" sleeper with 238" wb; top long?

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  1. Zeviander

    Zeviander Road Train Member

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    I run a 244" 379 short hood, and pull 48', 53' and Super-B trains with it. With enough GOALing, I can get even a big 53' roll-tite into a place it really shouldn't fit (a few weeks ago, I blind-sided the trailer through an opening in a chain link fence, into a building, with JUST enough room to do it nearly jack-knifing the truck).

    And that Pete has a forward set steer axle as well. You just need to know how the truck turns and how much space you need.

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    My ideal truck would be a 244" 379 long hood (EXHD) with a 63" flat top bunk.

    Pretty much this beauty:

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    Although, this one looks longer than 244".
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    2nd pic didn't work
    My next one will be medium sleeper flat top 244. I think 52" is what they are putting out now.
     
  4. LoJackDatHo

    LoJackDatHo Medium Load Member

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    I got a 265 wb 379 EXHD with 63" sleeper I and pull dry vans, reefers, dumps, drop decks, flats, and hoppers. Never an issue. We have some customers that I go to that have real tight places to get into. I might have to work a little harder than set back axles or shorter trucks, but I get it done just the same.
     
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  5. IH Branded

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    Thanks for the added confidence
     
  6. old iron

    old iron Road Train Member

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    My Pete started out at 260"
    I had to cut it down to 244" for Canada's bull**** lenght laws.
    And I'm still in counseling over it.:(
    Honestly I liked it better at 260" for cornering.
    My steering stop bolts were already turned in all the way. And loosing 16" didn't really effect the turning radius noticably.
    It's hard to explain but the further your spot mirrors are forward of the trailer. The better you can see the trailer in a turn.
    Like in a blind side back situation, now the mirror is completely blocked by the trailer at alot less of an angle than before.
    My thoery is until you get over 280" or so wheelbase doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
     
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  7. Zeviander

    Zeviander Road Train Member

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    Isn't it just Manitoba that has an issue with longer than 244" trucks? I know the only ones that can run here are one's that existed on registration before they passed the restriction, and are grandfathered in.

    I think it's complete bunk. A longer wheelbase spreads out the weight more, doesn't it? And our roads are trash already.
     
  8. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    I have a 265.. Get in anywhere can be gotten into pretty much.
    Next one prolly 300" or a hair over. Can't be that hard, I see guys doing it.
     
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  9. old iron

    old iron Road Train Member

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    I'm not sure of the maritimes but Quebec west is 244". You can buy a over length permit up to something like 280" but there is a sliding scale that cuts down your trailer wheelbase.
    It also voids any oversize load permits.
    With my 260" wheelbase it was something like 40' 3".
    A guy is fine in Ontario and Quebec pulling a normal 48' spread as they measure from the center of it.
    But Manitoba west spreads are a no go and the Canadian front axle slides are set at 41' when closed.
    The short version is its to screw almost all open deck guys from the states.
     
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  10. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Quebec and on you can go 7.2m or 283" without permit but trailer wheelbase normally 41' or 12.5m decreases equally as your tractor wheelbase increases... with 7.2 tractor and 11.5 on 53' it would be a nightmare to stay legal weight wise and also not violate 35% rear overhang of trailer wheelbase law. It would give me 3 holes I could be in. Normally 3 is enough but life is a lot easier the more you have available.
    Manitoba and west you can permit up to 7.2m with 53'. Spread axles are seen as one axle and maximum weight for both axles together is 9100 kg or about 20,000 pounds. If you close the spread it is 17000 kg or 37400 pounds. All trucks except super b trains still must not exceed 23 metres total length.

    Our length laws are retarded here. With the emissions systems and def tank requirements it doesn't leave much room for an apu and maybe 180 gallons of fuel if you are lucky. They should just put spikes on the curbs that get run over often. I don't see any other reason why shorter is considered better with our weight laws that allow us to carry more than in usa when you look at 80,000 bridge law must be 51'+ from center of steer to center of rear axle. Makes no sense. But I am just another stupid truck driver.
     
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  11. Cowmobile

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    My trucks are 290" and 300" and we don't have any issues getting into places, however, I wouldn't want one any longer than that..
     
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