NEW LCV Changes!!!

GOV'T_Trucker · Mar 1, 2017

Well Ontario is adding more things into the LCV program... So get used to seeing more LCV's on the highways... Gonna be pretty crazy...

- More then 100 carriers can register now
- Can have more then 16 registrations
- More highways and secondary added

Here is a big one....

Containers will be added to the system... You think container drivers are bad now, wait until they are able to haul dual 53ft trailers.

Even crazier... Car haulers are going to be added to the program as well.... That is gonna look crazy having dual car hauling trailers... I do think this would look pretty sweet tho..

Pullin2 · Mar 1, 2017

LCV's w/ cans are nothing new in Que and the Martitime's. Car haul doubles and LCV's are also not new either. I have pictures from the 70's and 80's regarding the car haul turnpikers.

Yes, can haulers have a bad rep overall, but the Armour LCV haulers hauling cans in NS and NB are pretty professional.

I'm not sure what regs ON and PQ currently have in place for LCV but the regs in NS and NB are pretty strict and heavily inforced.

Gov't - do you have a link for this new ON info ? I'd love to see it. Tks. Also, do you have any links / info what LCV drivers and O/O's are getting paid in ON right now ? I'd appreciate it. Tks.

gokiddogo · Mar 1, 2017

Should make merging even more interesting..

Prairie Boy · Mar 1, 2017

And town trucks in Ontario now have t have CVIP Inspections.

GOV'T_Trucker · Mar 2, 2017

Pullin2 said: ↑

LCV's w/ cans are nothing new in Que and the Martitime's. Car haul doubles and LCV's are also not new either. I have pictures from the 70's and 80's regarding the car haul turnpikers.

Yes, can haulers have a bad rep overall, but the Armour LCV haulers hauling cans in NS and NB are pretty professional.

I'm not sure what regs ON and PQ currently have in place for LCV but the regs in NS and NB are pretty strict and heavily inforced.

Gov't - do you have a link for this new ON info ? I'd love to see it. Tks. Also, do you have any links / info what LCV drivers and O/O's are getting paid in ON right now ? I'd appreciate it. Tks.
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It wasn't a link, it was in the truck News magazine that I get to my house. I believe March issue.

I found it there website

http://www.trucknews.com/blogs/onatrios-lcv-program-success/

Ontario in late January lifted a number of restrictions that were placed on long combination vehicles (LCVs) operating in the province, paving the way for the more widespread use of double 53s. Key changes included the removal of the cap on the number of permits carriers can obtain (previously 16) and the number of carriers that can participate in the program (previously 100).

The province also added new highways to the approved network and extended the distance LCVs can stray from the primary highway network from two kilometers to five. The LCV highway network was expanded to include Hwys. 403, 412 and the new leg of the 407 and two new configurations have been approved, which will extend the program to container and car haulers.

The changes mark a significant vote of confidence for the LCV program, which was launched in Ontario in 2009. Ontario was very cautious in its initial approval of LCVs and placed many restrictions on their use. To find out what, aside from effective lobbying by the Ontario Trucking Association, led the province to lift some of those restrictions after seven years, I contacted the Ministry of Transportation and sought the safety records for LCVs.

From 2009 to October 2016, carriers ran more than 224,000 LCV trips covering more than 69.7 million kilometers. During that time, there were eight collisions involving LCVs, however none of those accidents were the fault of the LCV driver.

Based on 2013 collision data, a traditional tractor-trailer traveled 3.2 million kilometers per collision. LCVs, in comparison, traveled 8.7 million kilometers per collision – and keep in mind, none of those collisions were the fault of the LCV driver.

Compliance with the restrictions and rules placed on LCV operations has also been impressive. The province has revoked the permit of only one carrier who was found to have violated program conditions.

I asked Geoff Wood, OTA’s vice-president of operations and safety, to what he attributes the success of the program. He credited the drivers and carriers that were first to support the program.

“From the get go, the goal was to have the best drivers, the best carriers, the most up-to-date technological equipment, the most rigorous monitoring and a certified training program,” he said. “There were 30 to 40 carriers involved in the development of the program. That’s where it starts.”

The environmental and economic benefits to the province are significant. In a 2011 policy paper, the MTO wrote that LCVs consume about one third of the fuel used by two tractor-trailers. That translated to a savings of about 67.3 liters of diesel fuel per LCV trip. Extrapolated over the 224,000 trips referenced above, the province’s trucking industry reduced its fuel consumption by more than 15 million liters between 2009 and 2016 through the use of LCVs.

Hudson’s Bay Company estimates it saved about $500,000 per year running just two LCV permits, when adding driver hours and tractor maintenance to the equation.

At a time when fleet managers get giddy over new technologies and devices that can deliver single digit fuel economy improvements, it’s important to remember that the greatest savings come from fully optimizing the use of the equipment and infrastructure that’s available to us today. Ontario should be applauded for paving the way for the use of LCVs.

It took some courage to do so in the face of the public pushback that occurred at the time the program was launched. But the numbers speak for themselves. From a safety, economic, and environmental perspective, there’s no way to dispute the fact the program has been a complete success and the removal of some of the program’s restrictions will ensure the benefits continue and expand.
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another link to a January edition

http://www.trucknews.com/regulations/ota-applauds-changes-lcv-program/1003077002/

TORONTO, Ont. – The Ontario Trucking Association (OTA) is praising the provincial Ministry of Transportation (MTO) for what it said were improvements to the long combination vehicle (LCV) program.

“OTA, MTO and the carriers in the program have been working for a while to bring about these enhancements,” said OTA vice-president of operations and safety Geoff Wood. “We are extremely pleased with today’s announcement and commend minister Del Duca and his staff for working with OTA to develop a sustainable LCV program in the province.”

Changes to the LCV program include:

– The expansion of the primary highway network (to include Hwy 403, Hwy 407 E and Hwy 412 as well as Hwy 400 to Parry Sound)
– The removal of the cap on the number of permits available to each carrier (previously 16)
– The removal of the cap on the number of carriers in the program (previously 100);
– The introduction of two new vehicle configurations (for transporting vehicles and container chassis)
– The expansion of the distance LCVs can travel off the primary highway network to access shipper and carrier facilities to 5 km (previously 2 km)

The move signals the next phase of the MTO’s LCV program, an effort that has been in the works since 2009 and was the result of a multi-year collaboration with the trucking industry.

“Over the years, the number of permits and carriers has increased,” said Wood. “However, this most recent update has removed many of the restrictions that have held the program back from flourishing in the province.”

The OTA said it would contact LCV carriers shortly to discuss the program further.
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orcen · Mar 2, 2017

Pullin2 said: ↑

LCV's w/ cans are nothing new in Que and the Martitime's. Car haul doubles and LCV's are also not new either. I have pictures from the 70's and 80's regarding the car haul turnpikers.

Yes, can haulers have a bad rep overall, but the Armour LCV haulers hauling cans in NS and NB are pretty professional.

I'm not sure what regs ON and PQ currently have in place for LCV but the regs in NS and NB are pretty strict and heavily inforced.

Gov't - do you have a link for this new ON info ? I'd love to see it. Tks. Also, do you have any links / info what LCV drivers and O/O's are getting paid in ON right now ? I'd appreciate it. Tks.
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Challenger and Bison are paying .50/mile to cross the prairies and toronto to montreal, 2500 miles a week - F'N ridiculous especially considering they're governed at 90 km/h, so after tax you're probably getting a grand a week if you're lucky.

Loblaws is running triples in Sask, paying .65/mi, that's pretty decent considering it's mostly a straight line.

Bottom line, you can make just as much pulling just a tandem, less responsibility and quicker trips with less weight and no governed speed.

Pullin2 · Mar 2, 2017

GOV'T_Trucker said: ↑

It wasn't a link, it was in the truck News magazine that I get to my house. I believe March issue.

I found it there website

http://www.trucknews.com/blogs/onatrios-lcv-program-success/

another link to a January edition

http://www.trucknews.com/regulations/ota-applauds-changes-lcv-program/1003077002/
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Tks man. I think it's time I re-subscribed .....

GOV'T_Trucker · Mar 4, 2017

Pullin2 said: ↑

Tks man. I think it's time I re-subscribed .....
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Yeah I have been getting it for awhile now... It's free and I sent right to my mailbox at my house... Always good stories and articles to read !!!

magoo68 · Mar 12, 2017

Sounds like it won't be long and every tom dick and sahib will be swerving their brownish truck in and out of traffic in towns like it is on the prairies the last few years .. I miss the days when enforcement kept them in line now it's anything goes apparently

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