D13 compounding turbos

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  1. thejackal

    thejackal Road Train Member

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    The d13 automation video drives the "turbo" from a set of gears off of the crankshaft. Maybe I'm missing the using exhaust waste idea in it somewhere?
     
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  3. thejackal

    thejackal Road Train Member

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    I'm thinking, it's using a twin induction system, which uses a supercharger and a turbo.
     
  4. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Yup you are wrong.
    Turbo 1 exhaust drives turbo 2 who drives the gears and thus the cranckshaft .
     
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  5. KB3MMX

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    Bingo, exactly.
     
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  6. ahab

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    turbo compounding was common during WW 2 on the big radials ,hundreds of hp shafted to the prop.
    google wright-curtis turbo compound....... then jets came and it was over
     
  7. thejackal

    thejackal Road Train Member

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    And why?
     
  8. ahab

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    recover wasted power
    result better mileage ..... within a narrow rpm range
     
  9. thejackal

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    It makes no sense to me whatsoever that a turbo adding compression to another turbo then using a gear drive to send the extra power to a crankshaft would even make a difference. That's quite a conflict.
    It makes more sense to use twin induction, which I believe is what it's doing.
     
  10. dustinbrock

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    The reasoning is to assist in the lower rpm where the motor would struggle and lose torque, the gear driven system adds more torque directly to the flywheel at sub 1200 rpm range which is why they say this motor can lug down and cruise at around 900rpm where as most motors would fall flat on Thier face at that rpm and stress the bottom end too much.

    Your twin induction would make more sense of they were using this system to try and add more horsepower but they are not, they are essentially adding more torque curve.

    I would assume if you.look at the dyno data you will likely see peak torque build at 900rpm.
     
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  11. cabwrecker

    cabwrecker The clutch wrecker

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    It's physically using the secondary turbos output to mechanically link to the drive input shaft and increase mechanical power being delivered to the driveline.

    It does not compress, blow or otherwise in any way influence the intake pressure of the engine.

    All it's doing is increasing the use efficiency of the waste gasses because an impeller driven off exauhst gas can only return to much of the energy used to spin it. I've never actually checked turbo efficiency returns but I'd bet dollars on it being lower than you expect. Adding a supercharger would also not likely be as efficient as compounding the wasted momentum of a turbo not spinning air into the engine (hence the flywheel in turbo compounding) and physically, mechanically adding it to the driveline through a series of high torque to low rpm reduction gears.
     
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