D16 Discontinued

Injector cups & the big EGR valve are the known issues with the D13. Once done that's it.

When I bought my 670 used, the dealer had about 10 trucks in the shop with engines torn apart.

8 Cummins
1 Detroit
1 Cat

All the mechanics said the same thing, don't touch the Cummins.

Awhile ago our local Shaker dealer had two identical '16 Cascadia's. One with a DD15, one with a an ISX
( and it was a 500HP ). IDENTICAL trucks in all respects, same color.
The ISX version was $24K cheaper than the DD15.
I was going wow. Can there really be $24K worth of grief in that motor?
A huge part is the after treatment in a Cummins as well.
Countless horror stories of guys dropping HUGE dollar amounts on the after treatment systems, in all manufactures with the Cummins.

That's why I'd like to see some real world feedback on the X15. It's probably a little early yet.

The DD16 is a turkey as well. I've talked to a dozen guys with Star's & Coronado's that said they were nothing but grief, and many died before 100K miles.

I'll get our mechanics input.

 

So the isx is the only choice for a 15L 600hp/2050...?

 

So what's their HH offering..?

 

I have a 13' Mack with the MP8 445hp. They injector and injector cups were replaced in 14' under warranty but literally today had to replace one injector and cup. UGH. I do wish they offered a 15L engine in the Mack and Volvo product line with the IShift, MDrive, Went from a manual and love the IShift. It seems all the manufactures are going to the 13L engines only with higher HP. Cummins and Detroit are the only ones left, and it's really just Cummins.

 

It's really about emissions. The D13 is actually a stronger motor than the D16 internally and offered up to 900hp in marine apps.

Hopefully they will offer a 2050tq spec D13 for the HH guys.