Am I making a mistake leaving Werner?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ad356, Mar 13, 2017.

  1. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    i got my CDL in november. i tried for a month to try to get a local job, nothing materialized...... same story everywhere. the insurance wont allow us to hire recent cdl grads you need experience. so i decided to go to werner because they had the highest training pay, they assigned me the family dollar because i expressed a desire to be home as frequently as possible. they brought me to the allentown terminal and i sat in a hotel for two weeks. this was before the Christmas holiday. The recruiters told me a fish tale on how i would go to allentown, go through orientation and then get a week of driving in before i went home for christmas. i went through orientation and sat in a hotel. the had probably 50 some people sitting there with no ability to train them, trainers had gone home on the holiday. the biggest issue i had here was the dishonesty. being told one thing and then sitting around doing nothing, seems like a total lack of communication between recruiters and the terminal.

    i returned after the holiday and i sat again for another 1-1/2 weeks. they finally placed me with a trainer. i was with the trainer about a 1-1/2 weeks. he actually was a decent trainer, he was on the dollar tree account. after we were out he informed me that he was going home for a week and i would have to sit in a hotel. i had already been out for about a month without seeing my wife or child. i went on a leave of absence and went home to see my family. i stayed home for 4 days and once again returned to allentown.

    i sat there again for well over a week, finally i got assigned a second trainer. i stayed with this guy the full term and got all of my hours in 250+. this trainer was so so. he only gave me 10-15 practice backings in the week i was with him, and he did not allow me to send qualcom messages or go through the macros. he ran the truck as a team with me sleeping while he was driving and visa versa. he started out by trying to run me overnights. i told him i was not going to be able to sleep and that i was concerned for my safety. i do not sleep well during the day, and its even worse when the truck is moving. i think the first night he had me run i got 3 hours of sleep. sure enough about 4-5 am i started to feel myself nodding off. i had to roll both windows down to stay awake. the next day i informed him of my difficulties sleeping and he attempted to get me kicked off the truck. i do give the company credit because the FM informed him that i was staying on the truck and that he would have to change shifts with me driving during the day. this did improve things somewhat, but then i had the vibe that he felt i was a burden. the entire time i was with him i felt he was using me just to run more miles.

    after i completed training, i tested out in the company truck. i passed the program but did not feel that i had been trained very well and i am no where near ready to be on my own doing a dollar account none-the-less. i have heard that these are nightmares to back into sometimes. i could go back and pick up a truck if i wanted to but i decided to try something else. i found a company located in my region that does north east regional freight. the company is called rist and its a division of wadhams. i found my experience at werner to be frustrating and i dont hear much good about rookies starting on a dollar account.

    rist/wadhams is a family run company and they have 3-400 trucks. rist is the dry van division. they have told me that i will go there wendsday for a physical and get a micro-tel for wendsday and thursday night. wendsday is the physical, thursday and friday are orientation and smith systems. at the conclusion of orientation, i will meet with a dispatcher and he will make the arrangements for a trainer. they have 4 trainers and they are all highly experienced and vettted, they dont allow just anyone to train. i will go home for the weekend. monday morning i will meet up with the trainer and drive all week. i will go home every weekend during training. besides the first 3 days i will not be in a hotel. i was told since i already drove quite a bit with a trainer, im only going to be required to get a week or two of training. normal training length with them is 20 driving days. once i have completed training and go solo i will be home on the weekends. they have told me that they do not run weekends, i will usually get home for 55 hours per week. this all sounds allot better for someone who has a family and is try to keep their family life intact.

    i was formerly a raw milk receiver, i happen to know allot of truck drivers. i have kept in contact with them through facebook and phone. the all more or less say the same thing, try to go work for a smaller or medium sized company as soon as the opprotunity presents itself. are they giving me good advice. they say with the big guys you arent anything more then a number, the have too many dispatchers, load planners, managers, ect ect. wadhams has 4 dispatchers and they all work out of the same room. being a milk receiver, i actually unloaded quite a few wadhmans trailers at my former job. the have a dry van division, fuel division, and milk division. after one year i can transfer over to the fuel or raw milk division and be home every night.

    am i making a mistake leaving werner in the opinion of everyone here? i know that dollar account is probably not a good fit for a new driver and i would like to avoid OTR. im not interested in the type of driving that will keep me away from my 5 year old son and my wife of 12 years for 2-3 weeks at a time. that would be more like hell.
     
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  3. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Took awhile reading your thread but I got r done.Don't feel guilty about leaving werner,they could care less.With all the sitting you did im surprised you lasted as long as you did.Stay where you're at if your happy and forget Werner.
     
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  4. Hyweighman

    Hyweighman Medium Load Member

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    What he said
    Good luck
     
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  5. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    i went to another forum and they said i was completely wrong in my assumption with the way things have turned out. i went to truckingtruth.com they called me a failure because i have decided to leave werner.


    wadhams/rist payscale
    35.5 cpm to start
    38.5 cpm after 90 days
    41.5 cpm after 180 days
    44.5 cpm after 1 year
    $2-300 per week in what they call soft pay. they pay you for post trips, pre trips, and any wait time.
    paid personal days
    paid vacation time
    1800-2500 miles per week
     
  6. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    It is never a mistake leaving a Mega.

    Is the second company the right one for you? IDK.
     
  7. homeskillet

    homeskillet Road Train Member

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    I drove for the fuel division of Wadhams, ARG Trucking,for about a year before I went to mechanic school. I had no complaints; I'd drive for them again but I don't live in NYS anymore.

    It's a small, family owned outfit, and as such they're a bit tight with driver pay. But at least on the fuel side, they didn't micromanage, they fixed any equipment problems I reported, and as long as you did your job and not cause any problems, you'd be fine. I heard mostly the same about RIST, but YMMV.

    I think you could do a lot worse. Good luck with it all, and don' t weep for Werner.....they probably already got someone else rotting away in that very same motel room.
     
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  8. Wooly Rhino

    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    Loyalty is a two way street that does not allow trucks.

    When you work for a company they pay you. You earn the money they do not just give it to you. Therefore, if it is not what you agree to work for or you do not like it enough to justify the wages, move on.
     
  9. Rowdy1

    Rowdy1 Light Load Member

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    At least they're telling you up front you'll only get 1800 miles. That doesn't make for a big check.
     
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  10. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    I'm a she lol
     
  11. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    1,800 minimum, that's 1,800-2,500 miles so i could easily run more. plus they pay for pre-trip and post-trip, how many companies to that. i figure on the low side 1,800 miles + $200 soft pay they talked about, about $840 per week starting pay at 1,800 miles per week. it doesn't seem too bad.
     
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