Werner or cr England

Wow! That says a lot! I've long considered them the number 1 bottom feeder, but you have put it in perspective.

 

Yep. I went there, after Werner and my stint at DoT, so I knew that they were to be avoided, but I could not find anyone willing to work with me after DoT, despite looking (admittedly, not nearly as hard as I should have, in retrospect) for two years. I stayed longer than any of the 130-some-odd people who I in-processed with at orientation (we passed around a contact sheet, at the suggestion of one of the students who thought that we might someday have a class reunion). As the last man standing, I survived for 10 months, from arriving in Burns Harbor, to the day that they sent someone to pick up my truck. The next-to-last survived six months. At the time I went through, they had just eliminated the six-month lease, so the shortest lease possible was nine months. I did everything they wanted, including lease and train, knowing full well that I lacked sufficient experience to be doing either, and they still pulled my freight at seven months, to bankrupt me and force my lease into failure.

I won't go into all of the settlement "errors", the garbage that they pulled on students (me included), the legal shenanigans that they pull to avoid paying civil and class-action judgements against them, their connection to the 'sleep center' that they send everyone to, in order to force you to buy a $12,000 sleep apnea machine (which they will conveniently finance) or any of the rest, because it would turn into a gawd-awful, never-ending rant...

But working for CR England is the same thing as becoming a victim of a scam, as surely as the crown prince of Nigeria wants to give you 850 million dollars. The more that you allow them to get their hooks into you, the more of your flesh they will tear away and consume. The longer that you are associated with them, the deeper those hooks will go. They are terrible. Stay away, if there is any other possible option.

 

Don't they also force-team?
Swear I heard that somewhere..... Maybe I'm thinking of Covenant.

 

They actually break up teams, if they catch wind of one forming. They want you to train, not team. They can't *force* you to train, but they can bankrupt you, and offer training students as the only way out of financial ruin... that's their pattern. They yank your revenue stream whenever you get out of line. There is always another truck and driver that would be glad to have it, and if they can't find a driver who is both willing and eligible, they'll farm it out on a load board, or to a broker.

 

You could give Knight a try. They have a yard in Sacramento. I did really well when I was there an have a lengthy thread on here with my experiences there. They have a couple other yards in CA and a strong presence in the Western region. I recommend refrigerated but with you living in the West dry side might be better but I'm not too familiar with how they run.

 

I could see that.

I did 14 months w. Werner. Not real gripes against them. Went to work did my job, got to see parts of the country I might not have otherwise seen. Refused the offer to team, refused temp accounts left and right, refused dedicated.... Just ran my ### off for my FM, and he was glad to have me on his strictly OTR team.

I personally think I made a wise choice in where I chose to work out the kinks and knock the dust off of myself.... Much of that is attitude as well tho.... I wasn't expecting a million & I wasn't expecting to matter.

 

Start with dry. Whatever happened at Prime, I'm guessing that you don't need any more complexity in the job than is absolutely necessary, at least until you've got some time and confidence under your belt...

 

Avoid the Sears account, with Werner. Live unload (takes about an hour per store), and the docks at the stores are typically only open 8-4 or 9-5. You typically hit 2-3 stores in a day, limiting you to about 200-300 miles per day, depending upon mostly luck, as to which stores are your first and last, and what their dock hours are. It's hard to make any money, with miles like that, and you spend almost every night on a dock, somewhere, waiting to be unloaded. This makes it hard to get a shower.

You can make a go of it at Werner, but it takes a while to find a groove, and they aren't keen on keeping people for too long - they get federal grants for training students, and those grants start to dry up before long. So I'd go with Werner (of the two), put in six months to a year, and try to find something more permanent at that time.

 

I know Covenant is teams.I think england is solo.

 

Put both names in a hat and pick one out !