Paralysis by Analysis..

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by telcobilly, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. telcobilly

    telcobilly Medium Load Member

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    Well it's good to hear that there's hope! I'm going to an outside school and then on to work as a newly graduated driver. I see where I would have to ride with a trainer to learn the ropes, but I'm not signing up for any truck driver schools where I would be financially on the hook. My expenses are pretty low right now and I could live off of $500 bring home per week for 6mo to a year, but no longer than I would have to. How does the money in OTR compare with regional and local?
     
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  3. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    Good for you! That is the first step in the right direction.

    Now, as to where you will make more money, local or OTR, it just depends on each gig. As a rule, you will make more OTR, but your expenses will also be higher. And as I said, that is only "as a rule." I made more in local work than I ever did over the road.
     
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  4. telcobilly

    telcobilly Medium Load Member

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    Thanks Big Don, I don't mind a small pay cut, because I'm looking at OTR as paying dues to have a solid career in local trucking down the road. I was in telecom for 23 years and the oilfield for 1.5 years. I can handle travel, long hr's and tough conditions from that experience. I like the fact that it is a high demand career with the versatility of local/OTR and being based just about anywhere in the US.

    How long would I have to go OTR before I could apply for local jobs (SoCal)?
     
  5. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Define "spendable". Yes, you should be able to bring home $500 a week starting out...without issue. However not all companies pay the beginning driver the same, your milage may vary.

    Unfortunately, that's the state of our industry. They don't pay beginning drivers what they pay experienced drivers. And you've known this your entire life.

    On the other hand. Target miles "average" for the majority of large companies are at around 9500 miles per month. Very few companies will give a driver more than that now days.

    9500x .40 = $950 gross per week...provided the month has 4 pay periods. Or roughly $700 a week after taxes. About $500 or less if you eat in a restuarant 3 times a day. Deduct another $200 a month for insurance....oh yes...driving a truck is a great way to get rich.....not.

    First year drivers average even less.
     
  6. Ken Worth

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    TelcoBilly....it depends entirely on the company you sign up with. Talk to drivers and stay away from the obvious ripoffs. A company with 50-300 trucks is probably best in my book. Don't lease! Don't team! You can tell when someone's BSing you. Listen to a driver who has nothing to gain.
     
  7. telcobilly

    telcobilly Medium Load Member

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    Thanks KW, I continue to frequent these forums, along with trucking co sites and the ATA site. I have learned a lot and hope to be prepared when I go to school next week. I'm fortunate that I live about 50 miles from Fontana, Ca where I understand is a lot of trucking activity. I have heard that Schnieder is a pretty good co, not sure how doable it is to get on with them these days..
    Bill
     
  8. Ken Worth

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    I'd sign up with a good flatbed company if I were you. You can get in and out faster and don't have to sit around waiting for appointment times as much. After the 4-6 weeks training ,you could start making $50,000 a year. I'd imagine they pay a little more in California than they do in the midwest because of the cost of living. Some people will tell you not to expect this ,but they don't know what they're talking about. You sound like a guy who's not afraid to work. A lot of the horror stories are from fragile ,gullible people. The only question mark I have about the amount of money you can make is whether or not we go into the great depression...then who knows? As far as companies...Medium and stable is better than big and flashy.
     
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  9. Ken Worth

    Ken Worth Medium Load Member

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    From what I've heard...Schneider's a good company and treats their drivers pretty good. They just don't pay as much...at least not when you start.
     
  10. telcobilly

    telcobilly Medium Load Member

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    An update: I'm about half-way through week two at the school. It is going well, I got my DOT green card done last week and took/passed all of my tests for my permit. I now have a class A CDL permit with: hazmat, tankers, doubles/triples & airbrake endorsements. Next week I go to the DMV to do the pretrip test and finally a skills test on week 4.
    Anyway, we had a Swift recruiter in last week and a Werner recruiter in today. It sure sounds good, but I got myself back on this site to get grounded in reality.
    My situation is that I really need to get to work right out of school but I don't want to make a mistake that is going to set me back. From everything I read here, Swift looks better than Werner even though Werner has a huge choice of trucks, electronic toll, Prepass, and logs.
    Is there a third alternative that I'm not even looking at? Local would be great, but I realize I should do regional or OTR first for the experience. Anymore continuing advice is much appreciated.
    BTW, I'm about 50 miles S of Fontana which is the epicenter of shipping in SoCal, so I hear..
     
  11. Lurchgs

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    I'd (personally) look at Watkins and SHeperd our of Missoula, Mt. or May Trucking out of Salem, OR before Swift or Werner..

    In general, MY tastes lean toward companies with fewer than 2000 trucks. I mentioned the two above because I know they take newbies right out of school. I know there are others - those are just what come to mind right now
     
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