I finally learned how to secure coils

You win on a technicality. Its not "specifically" stated in the green book.... However as published by FMCSA...

From the drivers securement handbook....

Driver's Handbook on Cargo Securement - Chapter 1: Fundamentals of Cargo Securement

Tiedown use

Each tiedown must be attached and secured so that it does not become loose or unfastened, open, or release during transit.

All tiedowns and other components of a cargo securement system must be located within the rubrails (when present).

Note: This requirement does not apply when the width of the load extends to or beyond the rubrails.


As explained to me by an OSP auditor and retired DOT officer the basis of this is obliquely referenced in the green book....


§393.104 What standards must cargo securement devices and systems meet in order to satisfy the requirements of this subpart?

(c) Vehicle structures and anchor points. Vehicle structures, floors, walls, decks, tiedown anchor points, headerboards, bulkheads, stakes, posts, and associated mounting pockets used to contain or secure articles of cargo must be strong enough to meet the performance criteria of §393.102, with no damaged or weakened components, such as, but not limited to, cracks or cuts that will adversely affect their performance for cargo securement purposes, including reducing the working load limit.

(Rub rails are not load rated therefore they cannot be considered an acceptable anchor point.)

(3) Each tiedown must be attached and secured in a manner that prevents it from becoming loose, unfastening, opening or releasing while the vehicle is in transit.

(Explained as, you rub something you can lose part of your securement... I didn't argue the point)

 

I had to go back and look at that picture again. What I saw, looked more like THREE legs? What the hell IS going on there?????

 

That's what SHE said!

 

Suicide for me all day if I could but like JohnDeere said its customer specified smh..

 

I know my bigger bubba I can run chains thru the eye and three over the top if the suicide coil is wide enough. Shotgun coils i just find myself dancing around the coil more than needed lol.. But at the end of the day I guess its each's own.

 

I typically only reference the green book in debates like this. The "cargo securment handbook" contradicts the green book which has the rules and regulations we have to abide by daily.

Read the first paragraph and then tell me rubrails are not a sufficient tie down anchor point.

 

Some are rated, and nothing is required to be rated so try again.

 

One thing that gets over looked in the debate of using the rub rail for securement, and that is the definitions used by DOT/FMCSA in the regs.

"rub rail" has its own definition, sort of segregating it from other things. Yes it could be semantics, but it is defined.

As is "anchor point" The he definition for this is actually quite vague. Then this is a government document we are talking about.


You can view the glossary here

Interpretation is the key. And who makes that is probably more important.

 

Yup,2 legs.
Missed those.