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Ahh .. I interpreted that you were waiting for the other company to cover the repairs.

 

No lol. They were gonna wait until repairs were complete and do abunch of other nonsense so I filed the claim through mine and there suing them for the repairs and I'm suing for downtime and expenses.

 

Ok,

I just want to throw some basic math out there because so many are hung up on the 65%

Load from A to B is 1000 miles at rate of $2000. $2 per miles.

Typically, what it seems people think on this forum, is that the truck gets 65% of that $2000 =$1300. No good at $1.30 per mile. Well, f*** Landstar right?

This is where negotiating and business accumen come in. So we cant get the price up from $2000, but i get the agent to break out .30 a mile for fuel, and break out $250 for unloading (when no unloading is required). Many many many will do this to help the truck out, if you know how to effectively and efficiently communicate.

So now, load A to B...

Fuel .30 x 1000mi = $300 at 100% ttt
Unloading $250 at 100% ttt
Linehaul $1450 at 65% ttt = $942.5

Total = $1492.50

Now the load pays $1.49 a mile. 75% ttt

And obviously load board freight should be what you are working to get away from....but business accumen will always help.

 

That all sounds good on paper. You can write all kind of made up numbers here.I personally wouldn't think to many agents would go for it since they would loose money.A made up .30 fuel surcharge and a made up unloading fee of 250 which would be not included in the rate so the agents cut would only come out of the$1450 instead of the 2000.would like to hear if anyone else claims this is done consistently with agents

 

You can believe me or not. It doesn't matter to me. I run for landstar and deal with it every day. But whether landstar, mercer, or independent, a person must have some business, personal, and negotiation skill.

An agent is always willing to lose a bit of money to gain a truck that they trust. If I was an agent, I wouldn't enjoy being called at all hours of the night with problems. Freight falling over, running late, or anything of the like.

Edit...and although not every one will break out an extra unloading charge or the like, every agent I've ran for breaks out fuel. And you can always ask for more than the standard .24 or .25

 

If your a good at negotiation as your claiming why don't you just negotiate a higher percentage from landstar.no I personally never even entertained the idea of leasing to them imo 65% to the truck is to low.I have know ideal if an agent would change there rate around where they would loose money because they need trucks that bad.

 

Alright man, we're going nowhere.

Whatever you want to believe is fine with me. Nobody said I'm a master negotiator, but I do put a lot of effort into it.

So many people have so many negative things to say, but it must be working for some of the 9400+ trucks landstar has leased on to them.

 

When I was at LS I has some agent would give you the California fuel surcharge is was more because fuel was so crazy high in CA. I also had agents say LS cracked down on them for giving to big of a fuel surcharge at kinda put a limit on the agent

I asked agents for more money before some will some can't. They call and ask the shipper most just say no because they are already pay extra for LS to pull the load.

You know when the freight pay really good at LS. It was the Christmas rush. But the thing was the number of loads to trucks. LS used to talk about the load to truck ratio 8,000 truck and maybe 18,000 loads in the system. Lots of those were cheap loads. Now come Christmas rush the load board would show 25,000-30,000 loads if you looked at the total in the system.

My point is at 25,000 loads and only 8,000 BCO you don't have beg or ask for more money the loads pay good. I quit because it hard to make any money when you only have 17,000 loads in the system. You don't have really any power. Someone else would just take the load if you don't want it. You can ask for unloading break out of $250.

You also have loads posted that are not real loads. I called on 6 loads that show available but when you call the agent he has to call shipper back and finds out none of the loads are still available. On top of that the agent won't take the loads off the load board. So the number of real loads available are not even real.

Agents call a shipper and get a list of available loads. They post them on LS loads board. You as BCO call to ask about the load. The call shipper back load was already covered by another carrier.. that why some loads are not even really available.. Meaning you has less power to get anything extra in pay out of them because if you don't haul it someone else will. You can always ask though.

 

Yeah, the best freight is always direct customers an agent has. Anything that isn't direct is a crapshoot.

 

if you have been with them less then a year no you wont have to learn their system and build a rep with BCO