Double brokers?

From what I remember...All Agents- I don't ever remember talking to Louisville, I Could be wrong.

I remember 1 smart@ss agent in like the Chesterton,In area- (219-662 number) I Real Bitzh who was caught red handed lying...

 

Back in those days i dealt mainly with louisville. Can't really speak with personal experience on how the agents are with outside carriers.

 

Bumping this up with a question:

Lets say if I book a load and send my driver to pick it up. Then ask some other carrier to take my loaded trailer for delivery.... does this count as double brokering?

I once had a UPS load given to some large carrier, then given to some other carrier and then finally me... this is double brokering, correct?

 

If ups is aware of it and approves its called co brokering. Double brokering is when a the 2nd or 3rd broker tries to play it off as their load. Our is also used for when a carrier takes a load from a broker but instead of picking it up themselves, they broker it out to another carrier.

 

What your referring to where one carrier picked up the shipment but another carrier delivered the shipment isn't double broker and I don't know about co brokering never heard that term,But what it's called is interline and it's common thing carriers do.Really nothing shady about it one carrier might find it more profitable for them not to deliver where it's going say NYC so they give it to a carrier who delivers to that area For usually a % of the original rate

 

The reason why brokerages get bent out of shape about double brokering is that you're putting freight they are financially liable for onto a carrier they didn't get to look at. One of the more common reasons why loads get double brokered by carriers is that trucking companies that have a hard time getting people to give them loads (there are a lot of carriers out there for whom shady is a way of life) will get some other trucking company to take the load and then run it on the ####ty carrier. Then they do business how they usually do it and my load ends up two days late and the carrier won't deliver the load until I pay them with a comcheck. At delivery we discover that the entire load has tipped over because nobody bothered to use load locks...

Yeah. That's why double brokering worries brokers.

I'm totally ok with a carrier doing all sorts of complex stuff with a load I'm putting together, but I want to know exactly what is going to be done and by whom and under whose insurance. That's not too much to ask.

 

Co brokering is very common with large shipment orders. An example would be a big military training exercise that has 500 loads from all over the country needing to get moved to 1 point. Mega logistics company is awarded the contract, but they know they will have trouble covering 500 loads so they give landstar 100 and mercer 100 and bnsf logistics another 100. Bnsf logistics would be a co broker in this case.

 

The way I understand double brokering is if let's ABC truck Brokers has a load that pays $1000.00 and they give it to their sister company ABC Trucking, and in turn they take a cut and give it to one of their drivers for 800, so same company gets a double piece of the pie.

 

Ok like I said never heard that term.So if that's co brokering is handing out overflow freight for other companies that isn't what the question was.haider99 ask about company A pickup a load but then at some point gave it to another company for final delivery .That is what I always understood as interline freight.Where between pickup and delivery different transportation companies are involved in the same load.Double brokering the best way I can explain is when a carrier takes a load from a broker under the assumption they are going to load it ,but turn around and sell it to a different carrier with or without the original broker knowledge

 

Ya that rarely works out well. The problem is lack of communication. When everyone is involved, well informed, and communicates with each other it can go just fine. But way to often shady fly by night carrier A takes the load and then with out informing the original broker brokers it out to sone shoe string budget no money billy Bob trucker.