This is my first post. I am looking for some information before i start training.
I am a computer engineer for 12 years. I am making a career change to truck driver as soon as i find the right training program.
Here is my issue. I live in salt lake city, utah. In order for my career change to work, i need to be able to make 55,000.00 per year to pay my bills. I went into the Sage training academy the other day and spoke with the instructor. He told me that if i was motivated, and a real go getter, obtaining 55k my first year would not be hard.
They tell me that their graduates usually get about .40-.46 cents per mile after graduating. I look online at swift, werner, schneider and many others. They say that new grads or rookies usually make about 30-35k their first year.
I am open to dedicated, regional, or OTA, wherever the most money is. I am very confused by this. If truck companies are offering .40 cents per mile, why would a rookie only make 30-35k their first year? At .40 cents per mile, that is around 22,400 miles a year, which is just over 1,800 miles per month, and if i only drove 5 days of the week, that is 91 miles per day. I do 60 miles a day just driving to my office. Certainly driving a truck you guys are all getting more than 91 miles per day. So what am i missing. Are rookie drivers limited to a certain number of miles per year, or do the companies not give rookies many hauls or something?
If i graduate from Sage, go to work for a company, and accept as money loads as i can, would 55k my first year be a reachable goal? And if not, what are the reasins rookie drivers are capped under 40k?
Confused about pay
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Sti1471, Aug 3, 2017.
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Hate to tell you but 22400 times $.40 is about 9-10k off the top of my headBob Dobalina and diesel drinker Thank this.
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At $.40 you would need 137,500 miles a year or about 11,500 a month. Which is about 2700 a week. Under e logs that about the max miles you'll drive and you'll take at least 4 weeks off out the year to not go crazy
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You are correct. I totally did that calculation wrong. Ok here are the real numbers.
55,000.00 at .40 cents per mile is 137,500 miles a year
11,460 miles per month
2,864 miles per week
573 miles per day.
Those numbers are much higher, but. Still achievable for someone for a rookie that takes any load they are assigned. -
Sage is feeding you a bunch of BS so you go to there school.You should remain a computer programmer.bigjoel, Florida Playboy, diesel drinker and 3 others Thank this.
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Remember you'll still need time off and things in trucking don't work in theory but this is my first year in trucking and I'll make more than that just get on here do your research feel free to ask @Chinatown for help he's the senior employment specialist manager on here
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It's obvious you've never been on E-logs.
I've done 3300 to 3600 miles per week continuously
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There's more to pay than cents-per-mile. Accessorial pays are paid in addition to cents-per-mile.
$55K is achievable for a new driver if he has all the endorsements and puts as many of them to work as possible. Endorsements are doubles-triples, hazmat, tanker plus a passport and TWIC ID Card.
Google for nearest TWIC office. You can apply for that now before starting cdl school. TWIC is used for entry to sea ports, rail yards, military bases, chemical plants.
Passport is for entry to Canada.
Begin studying now for the endorsements plus cdl license tests.
Free CDL Practice Tests are on here plus Google : Free CDL Practice Tests Utah
For now, memorize as much as you can from the practice tests. You can fine tune this with the details while in cdl school.
Sage is a good school.Lepton1 and Texnmidwest Thank this. -
Many companies websites show "experience required" so ignore that and apply. They bend their own hiring criteria for a high quality applicant fresh out of cdl school.
Trimac Transportation - hires new cdl graduates and shouldn't have any trouble making $60K+ the first year.
Savage Companies - sometimes hires new grads. They do various types of hazmat hauling including fueling diesel train engines and many other types of hazmat work.
Dairy Farmers of America - hires only from Sage.
FedEx Freight - will be required to complete FedEx Freight Driver Development Course after cdl school.
Sygma Network - food service owned by Sysco.
Pride Transport - @Snowshoes works there and can give accurate information on pay. -
Your miles in trucking is feast and famine. Some weeks you got 1200 miles and other weeks you have more miles than you can drive in the total 70 hours allowed to you for the 8 day work period.
Starting pay needs to be higher than .45, .50 is better. .32 was top pay decades ago in my time. But in 2001 I teamed with my wife who got her CDL, and she got paid close to .30 and I was over .40 making for the total to the truck about 75 cents a pay mile.We ran about 221,000 total miles and it came out to 65K gross for that year. The expenses for the two of us came to around 14000 to 18000 total. Per diem covered that in tax time mostly. 9-11 erased our 10K cash savings over 6 weeks when our payroll people ere killed and it took that long to replace the payroll. (We were replacing a storm damaged room in our home that time period.)
Pay miles in my time was a house hold guide atlas that goes to zip code to zip code between shipper and reciever. Usually actual ground miles MINUS 20% is your pay. Then taxes etc are applied.
Pay gross a year is NOT what you need to be talking about. It's actually EXPENSES you will incur on the road. You can easily with three meals for yourself at retail in the truckstop each day incur a 60 dollar a day bill. Making for a almost 400 dollar a week habit for food. That's almost half what you will total the week on a good grossing week. Some weeks you will sit and not even get 400 dollars gross. You can literally eat yourself out of house and home.
Trucking has to be a time in which for example today you will be dispatched from Little Rock empty to memphis TN to load for chicago for friday 6 am delivery. Little Rock to Memphis empty will be around 200 miles... paid .50 a mile = 100 dollars for three hours driving. And Chicago as the crow flies is about 650 miles.325 more total 425 if everything works out.
The problem some drivers run into is borrowing money using a comcheck or comdata banking directly from companies. For example to go into NYC across the GWB northbound with a big truck is about 106 dollars toll. You have to pay that, turn in the reciept and doublecheck it paid on your next pay. If your company has prepass etc transponders then they pay electronically at the bridge. You can run up hundreds in tolls using toll from Chicago to NYC. Do you see where Im going with this?
You are a company driver. Your first years earnings likely will not approach 55K. You will have to build up stamina and learn the industry, learn the United States. And endure many things. Something might happen and you break something or damage it with your truck and you are dismissed because it's a preventable (Avoidable loss) and then kept in a DAC database so that other trucking companies might not hire you for months if not years.
Eventually you will make more than 55K but expect a portion of that to vanish in truckstop food etc. What you will net after taxes will be around 20K to 30K maybe. If you were netting 1000 dollars a week, you are doing great. But if you have to sit at a dock several days, unload several days, get into a winter storm and sit 4 days... waiting... zero dollars. zip. nothing. nada. you might get a couple hundred for the week.
Your best bet is to stay in the industry where your pay allows you to remain in Salt Lake at your current costs. Otherwise you will have to leave salt lake and move south where everything is less expensive. We get by on 14K a year here in Arkansas. No where NEAR what you require up there in Salt Lake. Many families around us median income is around 34 to 45K max. They simply dont need much.
Trucking is a form of gambling. If you choose the right company with the right people for bosses etc you will thrive. But if you join a bad company... you are going to be in bad shape.
Im not trying to tell you bad things all the time. I suggest that if you are a in a different and prospering industry at 55K or better each year up there in Utah, stay in that industry. Don't come out to trucking.
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