I have about a week left of my PSD training before I head back for my cdl test. I went to prime wanting to go flatbed, but I couldn't get a flatbed psd trainer so I went out on a refer truck..
I get along well with my trainer and we seem to work good together, but I already realize I dislike refer division for all the reasons I thought I would. I want to swap to flatbed but was curious if anyone knows how long Id have to retrain if I stayed refer for my tnt?
I was toying with the idea of doing tnt on my trainers truck being we work well together and finish out the winter as refer then switch to flatbed after the winter slowdown..
Would I have to redo the 30k on flatbed or would it be less?
Refer to flatbed
Discussion in 'Prime' started by crocky, Aug 6, 2017.
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If things are going well, and you are learning & get along......I would suggest sticking with whom you got to finish TNT. Never know what the next may be.
If I remember correctly, You'll only have to come in afterward to do the securement class. In TNT, you will already have learned to drive & deal with conditions, handle Qualcom & hours, deal with customers, etc.....
Going to try to summon a couple skateboard folks to set you straight here. I run reefer, so not as familiar with the flat side. But, have had former TNT students become traitors & go to that deep, dark side. LOL! If it wasn't for my age & old injuries, I'd be doing the same. Good on you, buddy.
@Broshears just came back to us a bit ago. Ran reef for few years, found a local gig. Things changed, he came back & went flatbed. He decided to give back & become an instructor & trainer, albeit for the RIGHT reasons. Talked to him many times before he came here, during his training, met him on many occassions........ personal seal of approval. Ah, hell.....may just be because he's from my home territory! LOL
If I remember right, @skellr was/is flatty that preceded myself here. Maybe he will be willing to give you a bit of advise.
Hope this helps at least a bit.
Good luck & glad to see things have been going well for you so far. I do see the posts & keep up on you new guys, whether I have time enough to post or not.
Last edited: Aug 7, 2017
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I can't say for certain as what I know is from heresay from what I heard if a driver switches divisions within 6 months or a year of finishing training they'll have to go back with a trainer.
Noe don't quote me on that again it's just what I've heard, I would recommend calling or send a message to your fleet manger explain what's going on and off they don't know the answer they'll be able to ask the right people.skellr, crocky and FullMetalJacket Thank this. -
Ok thanks for the replies, I'll be back in Springfield by the end of this week so I'll askwhen I get there.
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Does this avatar make me look flatty?
Yes, I'm still hanging in here.
It's been a while and I'm not current on how they like to do things now. Policy is always changing to protect themselves from people that drop the ball.
What Broshears mentioned sounds familiar to me. I haven't talked with anyone that switched divisions that soon so I'm not really sure.
I know that Bill, who teaches the flatbed securement class, will be always available if you have any questions about securing loads. Or here on TTR in the flatbed section. A good way to learn is to post something and have people tell you what's wrong with it.
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Well honestly I wasnt trying to switch divisions they sort of pushed me into refer. I wanted flatbed from the start but only 1 flatbed trainer contacted me and it was pretty clear he already had another student because he interviewed me all of about 5 mins. Kinda seemed like he was asking just enough to say he interviewed me and he was the only flatbed trainer that contacted me.
The only reason I even took refer was because I was still sitting in springfield on Tuesday with no trainer but had been finished with everything I had to do by the previous Friday the next class was going into their 3rd day so Id soon be competing with them as well as the last few stragglers from my class.
3 weeks doing refer and I know I dont like it. Middle of the night appointments, 4 and 5 hour unload/load times seem very common and nasty smelling meat processing plants..Everything I knew Id hate.. but it didnt seem like they were trying real hard to get me a flat bed trainer so I finally caved just to get a trainer and get the process started.
I mean I do get along with my trainer and he wants me to stay on his truck, but I already know I dont want to stay refer any longer than I have too.. Not unless they can give me steady 1k-1.5k mile loads so I hit as few drops/loads as possible but still get miles... lol but of course that wont happen,.. It will be new guy gets 300 mile chicken load to the next state with 8hr wait time for the drop with 4 to 5hr unload time or the ####ty city loads to the north east that the lease guys all turn down.
Also as a company guy Ill have to take the lightweight truck for .45 or take a big cut to .41/mile for the fullsize truck. Meanwhile flatbed gets the full size for .43/mile.Last edited: Aug 9, 2017
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Yep. Overwhelming majority of instructor/trainers are reefer.
Heck of a lot less skateboard trainers, even fewer instructors. Tankers even more sparse. Would have to have had some pretty good luck & timing to have been able to hook up one in flats in the beginning. Really does not matter at all for PSD, though. Just getting that license down.
Very common for guys to do PSD/TNT in reef before flat because of this.
You'll have an easier time to get an instructor for TNT. You'll have to decide if your better off with your current "known" situation (if he's good), or try to get a skater.
Give someone in flatbed a call to find out what will all be required of you. It's a very common situation here, that happens every day.
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