Not being able to edit logs

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Slargtarg, Aug 30, 2017.

  1. SlowPoke44magnum

    SlowPoke44magnum Medium Load Member

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    I believe we're fighting for the wrong things. Why in the world would we want the 14/60/70 hour rules done away with?! How about fighting for higher pay for the hours we're ALREADY working, which by the way, is far more than most other working people!
    I'd would rather work 50-60 hours a week (I do now) for better pay than just bang my head against the wall not having a life to scratch out an existence by working even more hours.
    But I will say, that dang 30 minute break does have to go, it ridiculous! When I worked nights it only made me tired having to sit. On dayshift it just keeps me from getting home sooner everyday.
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    For some drivers this makes sense, but for classic OTR drivers, they don't exactly have 4 star accommodations to enjoy while the truck is parked. And it can't be parked at home on a consistent basis because the freight just doesn't work like that.

    I don't want to be sitting in uncomfortable sleeper bored out of my mind an ADDITIONAL 1-3 hours every day. The 10-12 hours/day parked in nasty truck stops is ALL I can stand. A person can only sleep so much.

    If I could spend the additional idle time at home and still make the same gross, SURE. That would be great! But in my trucking reality, it will never work like that so idle time is the enemy and not just for the sake of income generation or lack thereof.

    Good for you you have some sort of local job where this all makes sense. But we can't all be doing those jobs, and you should be thankful OTR drivers are not beating a path to your company looking to get some of your action and some of your pay. Enjoy what you have, but don't try and expect the other trucking segments to fit into your little reality.

    Coast to coast OTR, local/small regional, and the many hundreds of different trucking gigs in between ... all completely different animals with completely different needs and HOS realities.
     
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  4. Brandt

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    Who stopping at nasty truck stops. Stop at the good one's. Then after taking a shower and eating and sleeping 8 hours you have to rush to get going within 10 hours.

    I been parked 11 hours and 45 minutes, the time just flying by I better get going.


    It will be interesting times in trucking next couple months.
     
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  5. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Just making the 60/70 rule "optional per carrier" would make a lot of people much happier and safer and paid better, and does not affect those who aren't affected by such a change or don't want to be affected by such a change.
     
  6. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    People say they want more money so they want to work more hours. Why not just say no to cheap freight. We all know why, because someone else will do it cheaper. Why flood the trucking market with unlimited working hours ? Why not put a limit just like a regular job ? That what people always say, we should get paid more over 40 hours a week like a regular job. Here is the first step my making everyone run legal or close to legal as possible.

    Nobody knows what the real outcome will be of drivers run ELDs. Maybe more pay per mile maybe fast loading times. Maybe they will have to change the HOS.
     
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  7. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    The discussion my bosses had recently with Big Road (the elog app we run), the ELD becomes mandatory on Dec. 17th, the edit of driving time has always been a no no. The edit of off duty, on duty, sleeper is delayed until end of 2018. At that time, if you currently have "Yard Move" functionality, you'll loose that as well.
     
  8. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    We all know what the outcome will be.

    More trucks parked across the nation. In places they didn't plan to be. It's already been happening.

    Regional outfits will be running team's. I know 3 companies that don't stand a chance running Cali freight with solo drivers. And Cali is their only lane.

    Contrary to popular belief. Pay won t go up. It'll go down. Regardless of percent of mileage.

    As for cheap freight. Company drivers don't care what the company makes. All they care about is their own checks. Say no to cheap freight. If you don't want the load. Mexicans, Russians, and megas do. And american truckers are being taken over by 3rd world people. 25 years ago trucking was an American job. Not anymore.

    You all want to fight. But the fight is too big.

    In the end. Nobody survives. You all will be riding robot trucks what's left of you. The rest of us will be dead.
     
  9. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh goody. That's JUST what the morons of the world need to justify taking breaks at the fuel island. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. SlowPoke44magnum

    SlowPoke44magnum Medium Load Member

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    I wasn't advocating to cut the hours of service at all, I was merely stating the kind of hours that works for me as I am hourly. I was advocating HIGHER pay for the SAME work.

    I understand we're in a no win situation because of the megas, foreigners, etc. that will haul freight for near to nothing, but to give those same folks MORE hours to work would be an even bigger disaster to the industry than they already are. Furthermore, do you really believe if the hours of service are increased you'll be able to earn more money? You'll work way harder for barely more money, that's just how corporations operate. The companies would look at it from the stand point of the driver has more earning potential so we can pay him/her less.
    If I could, I would change the 14 hour rule. I would allow the clock to stop for waiting to load/unload, loading or unloading if the driver is not on the dock or otherwise responsible for loading/unloading, like flatbed, tankers, etc. But a driver in that situation should be compensated for anytime the 14 hour clock is ticking. That's where I have a huge problem with mileage/load/percentage pay. I believe that system is set up to screw drivers out of pay and force them to drive when they're physically not safe to do so. Been there done that.
     
  11. ZVar

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    Except there are no regs or even proposals stating as such. Is it possible? Sure. It's also possible the world will implode after too many states legalize pot... Point is, until it's actually proposed there are more things to focus on. Like HOS.
     
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