Not being able to edit logs

Flatbedders HAVE to be onduty mostly. They have to make sure their trailers get loaded properly. Tankers sometimes do to.

Revert the hos back to the previous 75 years they were in play but keep the 34 hour reset provision. 10/15/70 and you could split the hours. Drive 5 and take 4 off. Over and over.

 

Reading thru this section it's obvious most here have never hauled livestock, ice pack-chicken, strawberries or other time sensitive loads.

 

At some point there will need to be a change in how some of these are hauled. Whether that be team operations or relay loads, hos are hos, and something will need to give.

 

Not being able to edit non-driving time is just a waste of company time. I use the Shaw IVG system and can edit any and all time logged so long as it's not driving. If companies want drivers to be able to make deliveries/pickups on time, they need to give them that power.

You need to put in a legitimate reason to edit them anyways, and the DOT are going to see it when they do an inspection. If you can justify the change to the DOT, the company shouldn't care.

 

DOT: "You were at the shipper for three hours, but you only logged 15 minutes on-duty for loading?"
Driver: "Yes sir, I was waiting in line to be loaded and didn't move the truck until it was ready to be loaded."
DOT: "You got loaded and fully secured in 15 minutes?"
Driver: "I can throw straps like the wind!"

"Have to be" and "actually on duty" being two entirely different things. I'm pretty sure companies can also give exemptions to drivers such as those in van work to log loading/unloading time as SB/OFF.

The 14 hour window kind of makes it impossible to cheat the system to the point of causing safety concerns. All that drivers are doing by logging time off-duty when they should be on-duty is saving time on their total duty hours (70 or 80).

The 14 hour window needs to go and the only thing that needs to be limited in a 24 hour period is driving time. Sitting in the driver seat for three hours while a shipper loading bundles of steel onto your trailer isn't "work" to a reasonable person.

 

call them every time you want to edit then tell them if they would allow you to edit non driving time you would not have to call so much.

 

The reality is, the lose of "yard move" is huge, we use it on the intermodal ramps, depots, Wal Mart, Lowe's, etc.. That's 40 to 60 minutes of drive time per day that I save.

 

Considering that everyone of the elog writers are claiming this, we currently run Big Road, we were running Fleet Complete. Both have told us this. We get visits from all these people on a regular basis trying to sell us their app or program.

 

And you have the answer here. "Here, buy our product, unlike the competitors, it's future-proof." Hopefully you do know there is no such thing as an honest salesman, don't you?

 

Every flat company I was with wanted at least an hour on duty. Loading or unloading.

Only time I logged less was when the loads were easy and fast without tarps.