Why aren't logs required for local work?

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  1. Zeviander

    Zeviander Road Train Member

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    My paper log was always done to the best of my ability and I never ran past my hours, but I was still paranoid for the longest time about getting a citation for "form and manner" or whatnot.
     
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  3. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Just make sure you've got the required info and you won't have that problem. I've had DOT officers compliment my logs before...pointing out things many forget or aren't aware they are supposed to have (such as BOL# or shipper & commodity info). Keep it neat & legible and you've got nothing to worry about. I've even schooled DOT officers about things they don't see every day like the 16 hour exception...those are always the fun interactions.
     
  4. special-k

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    I run local 95% of the time. I run a normal type logbook. I show my pretrip when l start and a post trip at the end of my day. I show it all as driving and put a note on it that says local<100 miles. Then if l do a highway run l just log it like a highway driver would. Technically all l need is a inspection book to fill out for local work but l find it easier this way. Plus Ontario wants logs for the previous 7 days and this way its all in one book. I've been checked numerous times and have done it this way for 6? years now without any issues.
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Local work should be logged on line 4, NOT line 3. Why? Because all you're doing is recording the time you are on the clock. If you show your day all on line 3, you'll be written up if you ever hand that over to a DOT and he sees line 3 time past the 8th hour without a 30 or if you're on line 3 for more than 11 hours.
     
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  6. special-k

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    In Ontario we dont have that 30 min rule yet. And my day isn't over 12 hours so my driving time isn't over 11 hours. 1/2 pretrip and 1/2 hour post trip. I questioned a couple mto officers when l started doing it this way and they told me to do it this way. They preferred to see you accounting for the driving time by putting it all in line 3. Just my experience in my area. Different strokes for different folks.
     
  7. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Here stateside, you could write your name, date, start time, end time, and the total number of hours worked on a scrap piece of paper and turn it in to your company. Using a log book, that's the only info you need...you're basically just punching the time clock. You don't "need" to account for any drive time, because as long as you don't work past that 12th hour, it would be next to impossible to drive more than 11.
     
  8. hunts2much

    hunts2much Medium Load Member

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    Are 100 air mile drivers required to show a dvir?
     
  9. ZVar

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    Just like everyone else. Only when you write something up.
     
  10. AModelCat

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    You should see how bad my logbook looks when I do a typical trip to pick up parts. Usually fuel plus 2-4 additional stops to pick up parts, drop off cores etc. All of this takes place in a matter of 30-45 minutes lol.
     
  11. REALITY098765

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