The Unbelievable?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by RustyChops41, Oct 3, 2017.

  1. RustyChops41

    RustyChops41 Light Load Member

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    The pre-employment was not hair. I am hip on all the nuances of hair, urine, fat cells, etc. The most logical correct assessment is like driverdriver stated, the pre employment test was not up to snuff compared to others, or the random was much more intrusive. It does shoot down the "90 day" common response, at least for me. I really could be wasting $300. Thanks to all, and I'm not here to whine about it. And for the snarky comments, thank you very little.
     
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  3. driverdriver

    driverdriver Road Train Member

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    It's not a waste either way IMO.
    You'll either clear your name or you'll have to do a SAP program.

    Not spending for the other test and you'll have to complete a SAP in order to get on with your life.
     
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  4. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    You’d be insane not to have the second sample tested,
    I think there’s a time limit on telling them to test it, you better hurry
     
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  5. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Well the horse is already out of the barn. But why would you even fool with it in a trade that is so heavily scrutinized?

    CRE says on their infomercial, don't apply if you have used within the last year. ( 1st Clue )

    You put your faith and bet your career on an over the shelf product from Walmart. ( 2nd Clue )

    My man that is (was) working in the Pentagon, says they can go back years with hair. This was 15 years ago. You think the technology has improved in that time? ( 3rd Clue )

    I know a couple of career drivers that have filed their papers, and now buy rolling papers, but neither chanced it while we're active.

    People get shot all the time by guns that aren't loaded. ( 4th Clue ).

    They probably used some new or latest version of the panel test, and it's more sensitive. Unlike my X wife.
     
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  6. BB203

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    Okay... I'll explain this just once, the keys are in your own statement. First there is a reason why you can do a huge rail of cocaine or meth and 48 to 72 hours later pass a piss test done with a common litmus stick kit and it takes at least 10 to 30 days for marijuana. Delta 9 tetrahydracannibinol the stuff in pot that gets you high dispenses into your blood stream as canibinol and when it reaches your liver it is treated as a sugar and basically stored as fat. So without getting into a long complicated lecture on metabolism the length of time it takes to leave your body depends on 2 things how much was consumed over what amount of time and how fast your metabolic rate is, basically how fat are you.

    So after waiting 90 days you bought a standard litmus stick test and passed it, and your boss had it tested the same way as a pre employment test, however you mention the one you failed was a 5 panel probably sent to the lab. At the lab they do what is called a spectrometer test. It's done with a machine that talks a portion of your pee or blood and vaporizes it and shines a laser through it. You can't beat the mass spectrometer test. It can tell you what is in the molecular structure of the sample and tell them how much is there.
    So... Don't waste your money find a SAP program and do what you must.

    So I totally believe you but all I can give you is the why
     
  7. UturnGirl

    UturnGirl Road Train Member

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    What's THAT supposed to mean???:p
     
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  8. BB203

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    Oh one more thing just so everyone knows because a good example was shown here. There are as I pointed out 2 ways to test piss. One is the litmus stick method where a stick with colored panels is placed in the pee and someone looks to see which one shows a color and how bright it is...The cost of that one is about $25.

    The other way is send it by courier to a certified lab for a spectrometer 5 panel. The cost of that is closer to $250.

    So you can see which one is more attractive as a pre employment for cheap companies. DOT don't do cheap and randoms are done for them directly.
     
  9. Chinatown

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    He looked down and realized, "Jeez, I'm not a girl." "Now I have to use the other bathroom!"
     
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  10. BB203

    BB203 Light Load Member

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    You don't "have to" use the other one depending on what you feel like and what State you're in...lol
     
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  11. UturnGirl

    UturnGirl Road Train Member

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    Not any more... oh...nevermind...look! Shiny thing...
     
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