Electronic log books

Did you pickup after dropping that same day. Or spent the night and returned for pickup back to drop at your original starting point. How long was your actual day with the chicago traffic? Going one way.

 

Don't you just love it when somebody who can't make it OTR because it's to hard and he doesn't like sleeping in the truck, now wants to tell everybody how they should be doing their job.

And now he is a yard jockey. LOL

 

Picked up usually between midnigbt or 2 am and drop about 1 or 2 pm. It was about 12 hours cause of Chicago traffic. Sometimes I picked up in Hebron KY, just south of Cincinnati and I could get thru Chi town before the traffic started.

 

Not everybody has the ability to park anywhere and crawl into a sleeper. Stopping short of the house for me means paying $100 or so for a hotel room. Are you going to cover that expense for me? If not, I don't care too much what your opinion is as to whether I ought to shut down a stones throw from the house or not because your opinion is irrelevant. Want your opinion to matter? Pony up the cash. As long as it's coming out of MY pocket, elog or not this truck ain't stopping that close to the house. Period.

 

It may occasionally have a glitch where its inoperable

 

And then you go to paper and send in the logs until the problem is resolved.
Or live with the glitch and work around it, if it isn't too severe.

The only reason not to like e-logs is the inability to cheat.
If you run legal with paper, e-logs makes it much simpler and more accurate.
In fact, since you can not log times under 15 minutes with paper, e-logs will save time in your precious 11 and 70 because it logs to the minute.

Except for a change in status, which requires 5 minutes.
For example, if I log off duty and start driving 4 minutes later it will all be counted as drive time.
I have to be careful with that when I run in to a rest area for a quick pee, and at other times as well.

 

Man you all are getting so butt hurt just cause I said I like elogs. You and the rest of you that are upset with me need to go back and re-read what I wrote. Not once did I say they should be forced on to you. I, personally, like them. I am not signing a stupid petition. For two reasons 1) I dont usually sign them and 2) It wont do any good anyways.

So, before you get get all butt hurt and start twisting my words, read what I wrote them come at me with something more than "will you pay for my hotel?"

 

Just because you people keep repeating that tired line doesn't make it true. Brute force does not a fact make.

I've listed several valid reasons on these forums before but instead of reiterating those, here's a new one! Hacking has been mentioned and is usually dismissed as crazy talk, but not only are there zero regulations concerning security measures on these things, or... you know... actual security, the ATA is now admitting its a potential problem. Enough of a problem for them to profit off it anyway.

They will soon be rolling out a vehicle cyber security threat reporting system. It does absolutely nothing in the way of security but for the yet-to-be-determined price of more of your money, it will let you and respective officials know that you've been hacked. You know... after its already happened. Can't put a price on safety! Or any security features on your fancy clock

https://www.trucks.com/2017/10/10/ata-vehicle-cybersecurity-threat-reporting-service/

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Also, here's a good opinion piece on the issue from The George and Wendy Show on Overdrive

Bait and switch in mammoth proportions

 

Why would anyone like elogs? Too lazy to write on a paper and do some basic math?

 

The only reason to not Elogs is the inability to cheat? Ha! Ever ran them? Ever had dispatch 'adjust your time' to make it somewhere? I had to update the Pedigree Oneview POS today. It had 129 updates that took about 25 minutes while I was at a shipper.

I used it as my 30 minute break since I was there 50 minutes, and then it froze up. Kept on telling me how I could update, even though I just had. Wouldn't change statuses, kept freezing up. It even decided to disconnect the last thirty miles of my day, to which I said "screw it". See, while it was keeping me extremely safe and compliant, all that wasted time left me with about five minutes to spare to get my five year old off the school bus.

This crap happens nearly every day with these stupid things especially with Pedigree and I have been on them in some form for years. Safety is a lame excuse, those same rules don't apply during natural disasters, so how is that safe? When will people learn it's about control and nothing else?