I’ve been at this game for thirty years, pal. I can park just fine.
Elogs and the current HOS rules have NOTHING to do with safety. I can tell you this, I never ran much more than 500 miles a day under the old rules and I always got plenty of sleep. That’s just not so anymore.
I have a few bills to pay off and then I’m going to open a shop and go back to turning wrenches. The golden era of the trucking industry is over.
My day on Elogs
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by lilillill, Oct 27, 2017.
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Because you can’t leave cows in the trailer while you have a ten hour nighty-night.
Same with produce, it gets picked, packed and cooled and it has to go. The clock is ticking as soon as it comes out of the field.DOGSLIFE, Blackshack46, Justrucking2 and 1 other person Thank this. -
In a roundabout way, yes it is. Because the rules are set in stone and unbendable, the time I had left to drive would have put me in Ruston, LA, where there is nothing. The next closest place would have been Shreveport and that place is overrun with beggars and thieves. I don’t even stop there for fuel anymore.Justrucking2 Thanks this.
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Have you ever hauled livestock?DOGSLIFE Thanks this.
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No, have you ever hauled a 14' wide 15' foot tall, 142' from the head lights to the tail lights long load into New Jersey? My point is that if you had "Legal" logs before why do you need an exemption now? If livestock haulers have to manipulate or reconfigure so much why haven't you all been asking for an exemption for as long as you have been hauling them? Why haven't livestock barns, big ranches, or slaughterhouses made big changes already? I can tell you why. Because it was easier to tear out a page and rewrite history. As long as it easier to do it that way that is what everyone did. The problem is now that page is written in stone and can't be torn out and thrown away. I have a lot of respect for you @Woreout. That being said, let's get to the brass tacks. Yes or no. Can you haul cattle with an elog? If not why not? I will end with one final statement. The reason everyone is so up in arms with this mandate isn't because of the over regulation of our industry, it is just another rule. The reason is because this one directly ####s with the cash flow.Gunner75 and KANSAS TRANSIT Thank this. -
The whole elog and hours of service laws as they are written now in the name of safety is a joke.
Anyone notice the literally thousands of trucks running around for the last few months with the white piece of paper taped to the windshield that says Fema load on it?
These trucks are all running around with the hos regulations all suspended for them.
But some how these trucks are all running out there safely and responsibly and not wrecking or killing anybody.
I think this most recent chain of disasters and the suspension of hos is a great opertunity for FMCSA to study and gather facts on the safety of drivers running under the hos rules vs the drivers running with suspended hos rules.
Then maybe they could write the hos rules with real data from real world numbers instead of special interest groups
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Don’t worry, the likes of TMC and Western Express will eventually come up with some new rules to #### up your segment of the industry too. ATS is already sniffing around your back door.
That’s the real deal. These rules were bought and paid for by Schneider, JB Hunt, Swift, etc. THAT’S, what pisses me off—that corporations with practically unlimited amounts of money for lobbyists can rewrite the rules to suit themselves.
I drove under the old 10/15 rules. Truck drivers were not crushing four-wheelers by the thousands as lawmakers would have you believe. The streets were not paved with the blood of school buses full of children. Sure, CR England would put one down in the ditch occasionally but there was no where near the sheet amount of lunacy that’s perpetrated by the megas today.
So I guess that’s the crux of what I’m really pissed about—that giant corporations (and lawyers) have taken a once laid-back, fun job and turned it into an over-regulated, stressful, race against a 14 hour clock.Hammer166, DOGSLIFE, stayinback and 7 others Thank this. -
It is a race with that stop watch on the dash.
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You are more clueless about hauling cattle than I am oversize. I'm not going to debate it with you. I belive HOS is the problem not how we log it. My point is they are living breathing animals. It just got under my skin that my crowd was singled out. We are not special by any means but what we do has to be done, in the most humane way possible.
When holding pens are built to rest the cattle off the wagon with water and feed available no matter the cost to use them as that will have to be passed on to the customer yes I will be able to haul them on an E-log till then no I can't.Last edited: Oct 29, 2017
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I'll be honest, I know little more than helping load a couple of trucks and dropping the chute door, (AND don't stand near the side of the truck!!!) so I will ask, Don't "most" cattle loads run under 650 miles from field to feedlot or feedlot to proceeding plant?
Again, just asking, I don't know,,,,,,,,,,,,,wore out Thanks this.
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