MBN Problems....
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by w900b, Nov 9, 2008.
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I dont have any leads on 6NZ ecms right now, either have your current one flashed or keep an eye out on ebay.
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Midwest Diesel in the Minneapolis area sells used CAT parts including ECM's , I can't post a link yet , but you can google it . I believe the home page is used cat parts.com. Good people
CaterpillarWrench Thanks this. -
I have connection up here for used ECM's, I can flash and send down.
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Has anybody had any experince with broken rocker arms? since I did the rebuid I have broken 2 of them both exh valves I put the 340D jake heads on the 6nz and set them to .030 I have had so many different opinions on this. some people say that you can't have 340D's on a 6nz you have to have 340C's, others say you can but you have to update the exh rocker arms and 3 of the jake head bolts, and some say you can have 340D's but you can't have them set any looser than .025 not sure what to believe.
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When you rebuilt the engine, did you get the intake and exhaust rockers in the right place. the exhaust rockers are a differnt part number due to they are hardened. I would have to look up the jake part numbers to confirm but I have not had problems setting jakes around .036 for better stopping power.
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The mbn was set at .033 When I had the engine rebuilt they were not sure to what to set the jake lash at .025 or .030 they endend up setting them at .025 which I found was really weak, so I had them set them at .030 that was quite abit better but shortly after that I broke my first rocker arm ever and a month and a half later another one (different rockers ) No they are all in the right spots. .036 was that on a 340D jake head, on a 6nz or mbn?
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Slave Piston Lash Setting
Jake Brake Compression Brakes Serial Number Prefix and Model Number [SIZE=-1](1)[/SIZE] Horsepower Rating Slave Piston Lash Setting 2WS1-UP
6NZ1-83125
9NZ1-UP
Jake Brake 340B or Jake Brake 340C
410 hp or less
0.94 ± 0.08 mm (0.037 ± 0.003 inch) 435 hp or more
0.84 ± 0.08 mm (0.033 ± 0.003 inch) 375/435 hp Multitorque rating
0.84 ± 0.08 mm (0.033 ± 0.003 inch)
1MM1-UP
7CZ1-03833
5DS1-UP
Jake Brake 340B or Jake Brake 340C
All ratings
0.94 ± 0.08 mm (0.037 ± 0.003 inch)
1LW1-33333
Jake Brake 340B or Jake Brake 340C
410 hp or less
0.84 ± 0.08 mm (0.033 ± 0.003 inch) 435 hp or more
0.68 ± 0.08 mm (0.027 ± 0.003 inch)
5EK1-01820 [SIZE=-1](2)[/SIZE]
Jake Brake 340
435 hp or more
0.68 ± 0.08 mm (0.027 ± 0.003 inch)
5EK1-UP [SIZE=-1](2)[/SIZE]
6TS1-UP
Jake Brake 340A
410 hp or less
0.68 ± 0.08 mm (0.027 ± 0.003 inch) 435 hp or more
0.76 ± 0.08 mm (0.030 ± 0.003 inch)
1LW33334-UP
6NZ83126-UP
9NZ1-UP
7CZ03834-UP
Jake Brake 340D
All ratings
0.64 ± 0.08 mm (0.025 ± 0.003 inch)
CJP1-UP
MDP1-UP
MEP1-UP
W1A1-UP
Jake Brake 340C
All ratings
1.02 ± 0.08 mm (0.040 ± 0.003 inch)
MBN1-UP
Jake Brake 340D
All ratings
0.76 ± 0.08 mm (0.030 ± 0.003 inch)
BXS1-01545
Jake Brake 340C
All ratings
0.89 ± 0.08 mm (0.035 ± 0.003 inch)
BXS01546-UP
Jake Brake 340E
All ratings
0.84 ± 0.08 mm (0.033 ± 0.003 inch)
[SIZE=-1]( 1 ) [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Check the identification plate that is on the compression brake's casting in order to determine the model that is installed on your engine.[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]( 2 ) [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Some of the early 3406E Engines , 5EK1-01820 were built with either the 340 or the 340A compression brakes.[/SIZE]sleepless nights Thanks this. -
You can go .036 max on 6nz and .033 max on mbn, I posted settings above.
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I was having the same problem till Bruce at Pittsburg Power built me a new ECM.Now by pyrometer never gets above 900 even though the manifold pressure was higher.I am not talking about the power box but after I added it to the new ECM I now am happy with my MBN.
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