PSAnderson

LOGSRUS: How can anyone post-trip the trailer they are dropping and complete the Driver Vehicle Inspection Report (396.11), then drop the trailer, then hook to the new trailer, then pre-trip the new trailer 392.7) and record the time on an RDS in less that 8 minutes (flagging rule), or for that matter less than 15 minutes (see my post in this section under "been 5-years since I drove") to which you agreed??????????????

Maybe I'm being an instigator in this instance but I fail to see it happening unless the driver is also named Clark Kent & he came from another planet.

 

aha - this brings up a question...

If I'm doing a D&H, is a post trip (DVIR) needed on the dropped trailer? I know if I drive a second truck, it is - but is a trailer considered a "vehicle"?

(Note: I always conducted the inspection anyway - the last thing I wanted was another driver mad at me because the trailer had some issue. I even made sure reefers were fully fueled when I dropped them)

 

Yes. It is the end of your working day for that vehicle. The word vehicle in this instance takes on a very broad term. So a trailer is in fact a vehicle. I believe the Websters dictionary also defines it a a vehicle. In addition, J J Keller actually makes books the size of a log page that is nothing but DVIR's for this purpose.

Many safety directors are ex drivers and/or ex state officers and don't know the rules. With this in mind it becomes easy to understand why the extra DVIR books are not offered to drivers.

 

Look at my response in this section under the item: "Been 5 years since I drove". It is an explanation as the the rules that require inspections of the vehicle. I think you'll find it interesting.

 

I shouldn't have said it that way. I should have said I agree Re. logging the proper time frame. I apologize for any misdirection in that regard.

 

395.8 Interpretation question 1 does not say it must be under 8 minutes. It states any time under 15 minutes. Can you point me to a section supporting your explanation?