Truck\Trailer Combination?

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by tc3500, Dec 11, 2017.

  1. samcperez

    samcperez Light Load Member

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    How much is the air ride option?Im close to getting a new rig and trailer and Im thinking 36 or 38 ft as I dont want any issues with being over length.I am considering a hyd dovetail but maybe cant swing that and air ride.
     
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  3. flatbedcarrier

    flatbedcarrier Medium Load Member

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    tc3500. With our three axle lowboys. I don't feel the ride is bad at all. Maybe that's just me though from starting out years ago in a1967 long wheelbase freightliner cabover without a air ride seat, air ride suspension, a/c, or power steering? I drove that old truck 11,000 miles a month consistently for roughly the first 8 years of my driving career. Lol. I wish I still had that old truck just to let new guys take it for a drive. There's a reason they nicknamed old freightliner cab overs freight shakers.

    As far as not having air ride, we don't lose any work here at my company by not having it.

    I don't keep up on air ride hot shot trailers but I've experienced cold weather with air ride equipment. Seems to me like you'd also need a air dryer on one or you might experience problems with condensation in the system up there in Alaska?
     
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  4. tc3500

    tc3500 Bobtail Member

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    @flatbedcarrier - I will be operating in the lower 48. But you make an excellent point on cold weather and moisture. Think I have it narrowed down to a 40' PJ with Mega Ramps to start out. Duallies with a 25k gvwr. Appreciate everyone's reply here so far.
     
  5. flatbedcarrier

    flatbedcarrier Medium Load Member

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    Just something to think about,

    These trailers with mega/flip over ramps can be a problem with some loads. Lets say you book a piece of freight taking up the front half of your trailer and then can't find another piece of freight but there are vehicles available. Or you book a couple vehicles out of a area where there no freight available. The problem I'm talking about is not being able to flip the ramps up, or back into position because a vehicle on the rear of the trailer is in the way, or over hanging of the back a little bit. With 40' of deck space we overhang a lot times with vehicles.

    Another problem is the dovetail angle. A lot of vehicles will rub bottom on the break over point. And a lot of vehicles will even rub the front before the tires will make it on to the ramp.

    Just thought you should be aware of these things because there are times when you'll want to, or even need to haul a vehicle or two.
     
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  6. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    Your forking out almost enough as a good tractor and trailer combo both used gently. The new pickups are so stupid ridiculous priced. I could by a hand full of used semi trucks for one new pickup. Im clueless.
     
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  7. flatbedcarrier

    flatbedcarrier Medium Load Member

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    I've owned many semi trucks over the years and I have to say I'm so glad I sold them off and switched out to pickups when I did. I'd never go back to buying semi trucks myself.

    Yeah you can find a used semi with 800,000 miles or more on it for what a new pickup costs. And then that ex company truck that's had probably a hundred or more trainees on it starts breaking down on you. The engine will be ready for a overhaul, there goes $20,000 or more. Not to mention it'll need a clutch, and it'll have a pound or so of gear shaving sitting in the bottom of the transmission. And all those repairs will cost thousands of dollars, not to mention the loss of income while its sitting in the shop. No thanks.

    Not to mention, will the emissions be up to date on that used semi truck? Probably not.
     
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  8. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    I see your point.
    Emissions is not any concern of mine. I drive old junk over new trash any day. And i like sleeping in a semi better than hotel. Just my view. New is more shiny however.
     
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  9. tc3500

    tc3500 Bobtail Member

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    Yes I have considered that exact situation regarding the ramps. My concern was that if I purchased a trailer with the slide in ramps, they are limited to 9000lb......which would be good for vehicle but maybe not small equipment? The break over angle is definitely a concern so would need a trick or two on occasion. I know those ramps can be locked in the up position but that wouldn't allow for overhang. There doesn't seem to be a perfect solution for every situation all in one trailer so every bit of advice here helps a lot. Lastly I haven't located a slide in ramp model that is closer to $10k than $15k and I am trying to control costs with this first trailer. The one trailer I located with the slide in ramps does have air ride so maybe I should think on that one again. How many times do you guys find yourself needing ramps rated over 9,000lb?
     
  10. tc3500

    tc3500 Bobtail Member

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    There are several reasons for not starting out with a semi for me, @flatbedcarrier probably stated my biggest concern though. My brother has been a driver for 20+yr and also thinks that a semi would make more sense but I don't feel confident just yet. My career was mostly in the fixed operation side of the car business and I don't want the risk of reconditioning a vehicle of any kind as I start out in this venture. Lastly I am trading in one of my vehicles that has about the same payment and can always put this dually pick-up in that 'spot' if things go south for my start up. I know it's a little timid but if things work out on the plus side......purchasing a new semi tractor may be in the cards a year from now? Thanks for the comment, this site has is a great resource and helping me to think about things from the perspective of people out there doing it.
     
  11. tc3500

    tc3500 Bobtail Member

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    It's about $3500-$4000 looks like. But the trailers I see with Air Ride also have a lot of other upgrades so I am seeing differences of $6000-$8500 on some of them
     
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