Log book required?

Ask this guy. He works for the Indiana CMV enforcement. Nice guy and answers lots of questions on this.
Indiana State Police - Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Division

 

If your home every night I think your exempt.

 

Log books are required for trucks over 10k, unless you meet the requirements to claim the 100 air mile exception. If you're required to log today, you'll be required to have an ELD tomorrow.

 

The GVW he stated (Seems like he meant GVWR) doesn’t require a CDL (Unless hazmat) which would make him a non CDL commercial driver so if he meets the requirements he may qualify for the 150 amr exemption.

 

Since you are over 10k gross weight rating but under 26k you are non-cdl and qualify for the 150 air-mile short haul exemption. To use that you must;
Leave from and return to the same place at the end of each shift
Work no more then a 12 hour shift
Have an accurate time record at your place of employment

On the days you do not meet those conditions you must complete a log book. Effective Dec. 18, if you have to complete a log book more then 8 times in any 30 day period you are required to have an electronic logging device. Don't confuse 8 in 30 days with a month, this is a rolling period and does not reset on the 1st of each month.

When your company switches to the under 10k vans you will then become exempt from hours of service and medical card requirements as long as you never haul haz-mat in quanities that require licensing.

 

Here's the regulation from eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations

(2) Operators of property-carrying commercial motor vehicles not requiring a commercial driver's license. Except as provided in this paragraph, a driver is exempt from the requirements of §§395.3(a)(2), 395.8, and 395.11 and ineligible to use the provisions of §395.1(e)(1), (g), and (o) if:

(i) The driver operates a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle for which a commercial driver's license is not required under part 383 of this subchapter;
(ii) The driver operates within a 150 air-mile radius of the location where the driver reports to and is released from work, i.e., the normal work reporting location;
(iii) The driver returns to the normal work reporting location at the end of each duty tour;
(iv) The driver does not drive:

(A) After the 14th hour after coming on duty on 5 days of any period of 7 consecutive days; and
(B) After the 16th hour after coming on duty on 2 days of any period of 7 consecutive days;​

(v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:

(A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;
(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;
(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day;
(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.​

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So actually there is no 12 hr provision for non CDL holders. It's a 14/16 hour provision..
Also this is where it says you need to log (and the short haul is logging, just exempted logging)

 

True but when the OP goes to the 9800 GVWR vehicle none of this applies.

 

how do they define property carrying cmv's?