2012 Peterbilt 337 air brakes sticking...

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Brightbox, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. Brightbox

    Brightbox Bobtail Member

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    hi guys, new to the site and was hoping someone could help with an issue we are having with a crane truck we have. Truck has paccar px6 w/ Allison 2500rds

    The truck was just drivin 700 miles no issue. Come to the shop next morning put truck in D can feel the brakes grinding/sticking. Put the truck in R and no sticking...put the truck in N and brakes release.

    Parking brake works fine, problems seems to be only when we go into D...but if we back off the slack adjusters on the front brakes they release enough to not grind in D. Truck will work just fine for the day and then the next morning same issue...we back off the slack adjuster again to get the brakes to release in D.

    Any idea what is going on here? Just picked the truck up out of California where it sat in a dusty/dirty environment for about 3-4 months. Thanks so much in advance.
     
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  3. x1Heavy

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    What is the air pressure gauge saying? There is a primary and secondary air pressure on your dash. It has to be better than 60 PSI towards 120 or so. The more you got, they release. The less you have the more they stick.

    Also where are you? 700 miles from CA dont seem like much but there is a current winter storm coming through, it's probably cold.

    Getting after the slack adjusters is a sledgehammer to kill a church mouse. Something else is the problem I think.

    Edit.

    I worry that the spring brakes are doing exactly what they are supposed to do in low air pressure situation. And that crawling under there to release the pads with adjust the adjusters to take the parking off to make it move will turn that thing into a dangerous rammer killing people when you cannot stop.
     
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  4. Brightbox

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    Thanks for the reply, I'm in Louisiana and the temp is now 60. Have good primary and secondary air. Over 100psi...any thoughts on what this could be?
     
  5. Brightbox

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    Also what's weird is it is only when the truck is in drive...put it in neutral and the brakes release
     
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  6. x1Heavy

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    Ok. I'll have to do some thinking Neighbor.

    I am considering other parts of the truck but am not certain where the transmission has to say with the air braking system. One should not influence the other. I think somewhere you are out of adjustment on that truck either that or warped drums or bad pads or or or or. Makes my head spin.

    Consider the air brake system it has two components. Service braking, parking braking (Also emergency low or no air supply braking via springs)

    The transmission its supposed to be by itself. It can talk to the engine because it has to. Other than that it has no business talking to the air brake system.

    If you are causing the truck to do things unnatural, then you have to think maybe something is getting crossed or shorted in your entire harness somewhere. That's a nightmare.
     
  7. goforce

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    Most likely it does not have parking brakes on the front. You may have a sticking treadle valve (footvalve) which will put a little air to the system. When you crank it up in the morning take a air line off the front chamber and see if air is coming out of it. It it is there is your problem. If not that is the best I can tell without the truck.
     
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  8. x1Heavy

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    That's beautiful. I had clean forgotten about that front end not having springs. *Bangs head. It makes perfect sense.

    It goes to show don't rely on this old man and my outbursts online. It's really tough to see a problem without actually being there having lost half of my mind these days.
     
  9. goforce

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    Hey I totally understand about the mind problem. I have that same occurring problem.
     
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  10. BoxCarKidd

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    Steer axle or front drive? Does it have air on the service side air line when it does that?
     
  11. Brightbox

    Brightbox Bobtail Member

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    This is the steer axle, yes there is are before the brakes and no air leaking past when it shouldn't...UPDATE - we disassembled all the brake shoes, slack adj and s cam assembly and everything looked great, could not find any issues. After reassembling now the problem is as follows...

    Put truck in drive and can feel the passenger brake dragging, squeezing...after about 5sec it releases on its own. Did this about 5 times and now the brakes work fine
     
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