Own authority question..

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by HopeOverMope, Jan 29, 2018.

  1. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    No, it depends on what your expenses are. I have never cut myself a paycheck. I run everything through the LLC, and with per diem and my write offs, if I do owe, it is minimal, I write a check. But, the rules have changed, and I have had a few rough years, recently divorced. Best to talk with someone like Connie. I need to give her a ring too, as my life and finances have been turned upside down with the divorce. Now I have money... ;-)
     
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  3. Doublea120

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    Great spot to start looking for more concrete answers is ooida videos on YouTube sounds tacky but they give a ot of good information and they know what they'e talking about
     
  4. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    Ok... I'm trying to see if I'm over or under reading your post. IRS just wants their taxs, and they don't care who the driver is- but they do care about business structure and how much I disperse myself.

    So, disperse myself sounds like a paycheck. I'm structured as an LLC with an EIN number. I've never cut myself a check per say I just managed funds out of one or more places.
     
  5. whoopNride

    whoopNride Road Train Member

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    You can get a driver qualification file from OOIDA for 8.00. It has every form you need to be compliant. Application included.
     
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    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    Right, I just got that in the mail. Just focused on the tax side of things at the moment.

    Keep trucking as a sole proprietorship LLC,

    Or pay myself as an employee and file as a S-Corp
     
  7. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    You really need to talk to a CPA or good accountant that knows trucking. Do this wrong and it can really screw you up. I thought the same as you, glad I did not go that S corp, as it would not have worked out for me in certain years, where the LLC is easy peasy. No worries regarding filings and all the other BS and expenses an S corp entails. No thanks. But, that is just me and one truck, and I don't like to work, or work as little as possible. The motto around here is, "Work Smarter, Not Harder". And the LLC has served me well.
     
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    Maybe I'm confused what entity you selected but, if you're a corporation and whatever you selected as an entity for tax purposes, you are required to pay yourself a salary. You are the business owner and also the employee your business has hired. You can pay yourself a small salary and the rest can be disbursements or other benefits. If you really pay yourself no salary at all and only take disbursements; that is fraud as your are skirting your payroll, SSI, and Medicare taxes.

    If you are unincorporated and a sole proprietor you can pay yourself only out of the profits and never put yourself on payroll. You are still subject to the self employment tax on the business profit in this example.

    I think your goal is to minimize your tax burden and if you're doing well in business with decent profits, running an S Corp will save you money as the full profit of the business is not being taxed at the self employment rate and you have other advantages like depreciation. I also think being in business, not incorporated, operating anything other than a lemonade stand, is asking for trouble. That's more risk than I'm willing to accept.
     
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    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    I'm an LLC. So right in between a full blown corp and a "dba"...

    So, since you are a Corp or LLC taxed as a Corp, do you carry full workmans comp or just occupational accident insurance.
     
  10. Misesian

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    That will vary by State. Arkansas doesn't require Work Comp until you have 3 employees. I carry Occupational Accident on myself and the guy I just hired. I like to have something around just in case.
     
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