Air leak- any help?

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  1. cat from the valley

    cat from the valley Medium Load Member

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    u took the words out my fingers les2
     
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  3. 13letter

    13letter Light Load Member

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    This one uses air to disengage fan. When hub went out it lost air til you turned switch on. I will double check it too. Should leak too with key on engine off.
     
  4. cat from the valley

    cat from the valley Medium Load Member

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    some ecm"s wont open the valve unless the engine is spinning just the key on alone wont do wit some
     
  5. Rock hauler

    Rock hauler Light Load Member

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    is it losing a lot of air, like to much for compressor to keep up. int has high idle switch in dash to keep from high idle without brakes set, but my money on airdryier.
     
  6. droy

    droy Heavy Load Member

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    Would it possibly be somewhere in the park brake system, as in:
    Lock the brakes, turn ignition off, no leaks;
    Crank truck, release brakes, which charges the system, the leak appears.
     
  7. 13letter

    13letter Light Load Member

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    Rockhauler: System does keep up, cycles bout every 4 minutes. Way too often.

    Droy: Have tried with brakes set and released. Same leak rate.
    And the strange part is its on the secondary side only. Not the primary side which will drop with regular system leaks like air bags, brakes, etc..

    Appreciate the ideas guys. Think I'll have a beer. Think and drink? Back to the shop in the A.M. and go a bit further on it.
     
  8. C16KIWI

    C16KIWI Medium Load Member

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    I had problems with my air drier as well.
    Sounds like what you are saying.
     
  9. 13letter

    13letter Light Load Member

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    Really starting to think its the drier. Bypass it tomorrow and go from there.
     
  10. AgLaw

    AgLaw Light Load Member

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    I too think it's something with the fan. However I wouldn't rule out the air dryer. Is your truck is equipped with the Meritor WABCO "System Saver" or Bendix AD-SP air dryer? Those air dryers are "integrated" units and require a protected check valve (usually in the secondary tank) that allows a metered (ususally viewed as a drop to a certain psi) reverse flow of air from the protected secondary reservoir back into the wet tank and air dryer for the purge volume and regeneration. Those valves can and do go bad. And being an internal leak, you wouldn't necessarily hear it. Note that bypassing the dryer wouldn't eliminate the problem because the valve is external of the dryer (on the secondary tank). Unfortunately, I'm most positive the leak would be noticable with the engine off, albeit only for a short time...that is until the valve finally seals off. Word of caution though, with those systems it is normal to see a slight pressure drop in the secondary tank during the purge cycle. I hope that is not what you are interpreting as a problem...with your description so far, I don't think so.
     
  11. 13letter

    13letter Light Load Member

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    Ya, getting more than the pressure drop during regeneration. This has the Bendix AD type drier. The check valve is a possibility too. Thanks
     
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