Example of some fine Cummins work quality

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jamin22, Mar 8, 2018.

  1. T-800

    T-800 Light Load Member

    98
    45
    Sep 20, 2014
    Frankfort, IN
    0
    this is correct. And yes use a torque wrench to do it. Don’t try and guess or you’ll be loose or break them. You are supposed to use all new head bolts but they are 40$ a piece or something outrageous. Look at each of your old ones and if they don’t look stretched you can reuse them. But that gives you another reason to retorque
     
    Dave_in_AZ Thanks this.
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

    3,211
    4,295
    Sep 12, 2017
    Plymouth MI
    0
    The head was not torqued properly, which is common, or a liner dropped. Cummins is all over the map on their liner heights lately. I know of two motors, crate motors direct from Cummins that have had this issue. Sad.
     
  4. easytopleez33

    easytopleez33 Light Load Member

    251
    325
    Jan 6, 2015
    0
    Just turning over 800,000 on this ISX. No issues, and sure do love the jakes on these motors.
     
    Dan.S, Dave_in_AZ and Justrucking2 Thank this.
  5. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

    3,211
    4,295
    Sep 12, 2017
    Plymouth MI
    0
    About how far mine made it, then the head went. But, it is a good motor once the emission issue is taken care of. The rest of the truck, that is another story. ;-)
     
  6. easytopleez33

    easytopleez33 Light Load Member

    251
    325
    Jan 6, 2015
    0
    That's the beauty of being a company hand again.
    If the head goes, it's on them.
    As far as the truck goes, don't really have a choice in the matter
     
    Justrucking2 Thanks this.
  7. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

    60,789
    425,640
    May 4, 2015
    0
    So did you run engine up to temp, up to temp 3 times / cool, or actually drive it?
     
  8. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

    1,801
    3,211
    Feb 25, 2016
    I-20 LOUISIANA
    0
    No, because the cm871 isx is a dual over head cam; so if I remember right, the cams have to be out to reach the head bolts. So it’s basically impractical to assemble the cams, injectors and etc, then disassemble just to reach the head bolts again.

    That’s why the journeyman I took my ISX to for rebuild, established his own method of waiting overnight. That gives the head bolts enough time to back off. We also marked each headbolt with a marker, a straight line on the head, to monitor and perform the quarter turn or half that Cummins recommends, this is before letting sit over night. The procedure is torque down to a lower ft lbs, then torque to the next rating up, then to the 3rd a final resting torque rating then a quarter turn or what not.

    This is how most dealerships do it, then they get right back to putting the cams in and etc.

    But waiting over night is something that he does on every rebuild to make sure the bolts didn’t back off a bit
     
  9. T-800

    T-800 Light Load Member

    98
    45
    Sep 20, 2014
    Frankfort, IN
    0
    My info is based on a N14 red top. I've never done an ISX so I'm sure they are different. I got my info from a Cummins service manual. Just thought I would point that out
     
    HopeOverMope Thanks this.
  10. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

    60,789
    425,640
    May 4, 2015
    0
    So you did all 3 step torques, the extra 1/4, let sit overnight, then retorqued?
     
  11. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

    1,801
    3,211
    Feb 25, 2016
    I-20 LOUISIANA
    0
    Right, don’t quote me on the 1/4 turn part - I forget exactly what the service manual says either a 1/4 or a 1/2 I think.

    But yup, wait over night and torque back to spec
     
    Dave_in_AZ Thanks this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.