Split breaks legal?

aramil248 · Mar 10, 2018

IluvCATS said: ↑

Have you ever gone to sleeper berth and woke up before your 10 hours were over and saw that you now had some random amount of time available for god knows what reason? It’s the Qualcomm giving you the remainder of your day’s 11 drive hours you didn’t use. Confusing as hell. But if you do sleeper berth for 8 hours, that will happen.
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oh i used to think that was just my dispatcher at CRST giving me hours to do the load even though i see i haven't completed my 10 yet

DSK333 · Mar 10, 2018

Numb said: ↑

Specifically, drivers of property-carrying commercial motor vehicles may accumulate the equivalent of 10 consecutive hours off duty by taking two periods of rest, provided that:

One of the periods is at least 8 consecutive hours in a sleeper berth;

The remaining 2 hours (taken either before or after the 8-hour period) is spent either off duty, in a sleeper berth, or any combination of the two;

Driving time in the period immediately before and after each rest period, when added together, does not exceed 11 hours; and

Compliance with the 14-hour rule is calculated from the end of the first of the two qualifying rest periods.

Drivers of passenger-carrying vehicles may split their required 8-hour rest period into two separate periods, provided that:

The two rest periods are spent entirely in a sleeper berth;

Neither period is less than 2 hours;

Driving time in the period immediately before and after each rest period, when added together, does not exceed 10 hours; and

The on-duty time in the period immediately before and after each rest period, when added together, does not include any driving after the 15th hour.

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Can you cite your source please? A link to it would be great.

DSK333 · Mar 10, 2018

Farmerbob1 said: ↑

I have done 8-2-8-2-8-2 before, stringing 8-2 breaks on a very tight long distance load.
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I have as well but I've never started to cycle with the 2 hour break before the 8. I could never find an conclusive answer from a reputable source specifying that we could do the 2 hour break first instead of the 8.

DSK333 · Mar 10, 2018

scottied67 said: ↑

The regs are quoted right above in this very thread lol says you can do 2/8 or 8/8 or 8/2
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Yes, I saw that but there's no source cited. I'd love to find an authentic answer to this.

not4hire · Mar 10, 2018

DSK333 said: ↑

I was always told you can't do the 2 first. Has to be 8 then 2.
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You were lied to.

DSK333 · Mar 10, 2018

not4hire said: ↑

You were lied to.
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That's very insightful. There's a long thread here on TTR about it. How about posting a link to the DOT legislation that actually answers the question? Now, THAT would be truly helpful.

peterd · Mar 10, 2018

Brickwall said: ↑

Just keep in mind that while lefal, qualcomm doesn't allow 2/8 split, only 8/2. It's just not in the programming. So don't take a 2 hr break thinking it'll do anything for you unless you did 8 in the sleeper already.
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Our Qualcomm's recognize the 2 hrs if done before the 8 hrs. Maybe your company has set it up that way

25(2)+2 · Mar 10, 2018

It's in the pocket manual, green bible, and reads rather ambiguously, but it works either way, be aware that the 2 doesn't stop the clock, while 8 in the sleeper adds 8 hours to the 14, and the 14 is figured from the end of the previous break.

EROAD doesn't do that correctly, but if you take the 2 first, it reads out right.

Doing the 8 in the sleeper first will not reflect correctly on the drive timer. It won't show a violation if you don't exceed drive time or the 14 hour rule even though the timer showed zero hours drive time.

Glad I don't have a qcomm.

not4hire · Mar 10, 2018

DSK333 said: ↑

That's very insightful. There's a long thread here on TTR about it. How about posting a link to the DOT legislation that actually answers the question? Now, THAT would be truly helpful.
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You wont find it because it doesnt exist. There is no requirement as to which period, 8 or 2, is used first.

Brickwall · Mar 10, 2018

Farmerbob1 said: ↑

I have done 8-2-8-2-8-2 before, stringing 8-2 breaks on a very tight long distance load.
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That's a great way to burn through your 70 in a hurry. You can get a lot of driving done in a short amount of time tho.

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