Wow, I didn't knonw that. So there is no more use of ham radio with morse code as a hobby anymore? I just want to make sure I am understanding this?
Smith Trucking Company Told to stay OFF the 10 Meter band
Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Gadfly, Aug 23, 2007.
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No not at all people are still using CW (morse) all the time it is just that You don't have to learn it to get a licence any more, You use have to be able to send 5 words per minute to get a novice or tech licence, I think it was 12 wpm for general and 15 for advanced, my numbers may be off but are in the ball park, shame too cause I am a general, I know I could send some if I had to but I couldn't recieve if my life depended on it.. Here is the deal though out of all the modes, AM SSB FM RTTY PAcket and so on and now there are some real cool digi modes I have no clue about, out of them all CW will get through the crap the best, some of the digital modes are close but when it comes to digging out a cignal and copying it cw is always the most dependable, also there is something very romantic
about zero beating a signal and copying the message to paper with a pencil, then getting the call sign and seeing that the station is in zimbabwe or austrailia. chills up my spine, man I miss that.
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So, what I am reading is that if I get my tech liscense than I can operate one of those illegal 10m radios in my truck, right?
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Nope, not legally. It doesn't matter what ticket you have. You still can not legally operate that radio on anything but the 10 meter band.
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I might open a can of worms here, but as far a im concerned you go spend your money to buy a radio no one has the right to take it, not even a dot jerk. thats not legal. and as for interferance in tvs and stereos i have a 40 channel base that puts out the legal factory power of 4 or 5 watts, it interfered with neighbors tvs and stereeos all the time,, big whooop, it was my radio, my antenna no ilegal power, they could stick it, didnt want to hear it. those ham band weirdos can take the sniffing antennas and theyr snoopy noses and stick them in the mud, they seem to think they own the air waves and THEY DONT. they are just a bunch of know it all electronic dipsticks who think they own the airwaves cause they have a radio on a different frequency and a special license to give them right to be god over everyone else with a radio. well they can kiss my you know what where the sun dont shine.
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I understand. I am not a ham. I just posted what I did so the member did not go out and get a ham ticket only to find out he still can not use a 10 meter radio on the 11 meter (regular CB) band.
The thing that really erks me abotu all of this is that the Hams have so many more bands to use and can get by without even going into the 10 meter band or 11 meter band. It is to the point were the FCC could just make them both open and allow these 10 meter radios to be used legally.
The Hams will whine and cry for years but who really cares. I mean they don't really have anything to cry about since they already have a larger peice of the pie anyway. -
It is very simple: We use the bands which give us the best propogation at any given time. E.g. at the moment (Winter and night in Europe) the upper bands (20m, 17m, 15m, 12m, 10m) are pretty much dead except for local traffic due to lack of sunlight. Therefore we move to the lower bands (30m, 40m, 80m, 160m) to get range. In summer, especially during daytime these bands will be blocked by absorption, so we move to the higher bands. This is why we have dedicated bands all over the spectrum. In summer, during daytime, you can easily go intercontinental with 100W on the 10m band and will disturb traffic e.g. here in Europe.
A friend and fellow ham (and professional long distance truck driver) here in Germany had problems with taxi drivers from Moscow, Russia, who were using the 10 m band illegally. No response after he asked them politely to leave the band (in Russian, he was from former East Germany and speaks passable Russian) except for abuse. So he he got a native Russian friend on the microphone. They got themselves Moscow on Google Earth and started imitating the dispatcher, sending the taxi drivers on wild goose chases all over the countryside surrounding Moscow. He then told them that they would waste a lot of fuel in future, driving all over the countryside without load, if they wouldn't ##### out of the band.
BTW, as another poster has stated, the military are using frequencies around the CB band. They also have good direction finding equipment and can locate an intruder within seconds.
Another thing: You might get your hands on CB radios with 80 channels and FM and single sideband capability. These have been made for the German market, where these extra channels and modulations are legal, but they are illegal in the US. -
so the exports are illegal in the US, Period?
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Rat, I have reread what you typed and I think I got it now. The big export radios are made for 10m operation but can be converted to operate on 11m, but that would be illegal,,,,right? The export 10m radios are for just that 10m? A 10m is a 10m and an 11m is an 11m
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I don't know what the rules in the US are, but over here (relating to CB equipment), if your equipment is in it's original configuration acc. to the specs (and you didn't tamper with it), you are ok.
Even for us hams, we are only responsible for interference if the disturbed TV or radio sets meet the current interference protection standards (as long as we obey our legal limits). In this case we will have to take action (e.g. by reducing transmitting power or changing the location of our antenna). I had a problem a few weeks ago after I installed a new antenna outside my house (a G5RV for those in the know). Whenever I was transmitting on the 80 or 40 m band, I was causing interference with my neighbour's TV. Now this neighbour and myself are getting along quite well, I told him several months ago that if there ever was interference he should please record the time and day and I would compare it with my station logbook to see if I was transmitting at this time. It was instantly clear that I was the culprit. Since he was living closest to the antenna (on second floor, about 20 feet away from it), I assume that he received a direct signal into his TV, which was quite new and therefore built to the latest standards.
So I dismanteled the antenna.
Often older TVs or radios don't meet the modern standards and are much more sensitive to interference. In this case I can keep transmitting within my legal limits.
Concerning the ownership of frequencies, in fact WE DO own the frequencies allocated to us. Get a licence and then you can use them too. Similarly others own the frequencies allocated to them, e.g. the military, police, rescue services, commercial services, air traffic control etc. .
Try transmitting in a band allocated to any of the services mentioned above. You'll have the FCC pay you a visit on short notice.
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