I have heard of lawyers beating the ticket because the bear on the ground is not the one who was shooting radar. If the bear in the air uses timers how can that stand up in court if it is challenged and there is no radar?
Drive your own #### truck!
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Otter, Dec 13, 2008.
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KGB0911 said: ↑I am a newbie swift driver. Been solo since mid-Nov...driving since mid Sept. I wouldn't presume to tell anybody anything other than a 'bear warning' or 4-wheelers broke down with half their car sticking out into a lane of traffic. I surely am not going to get on, and tell another driver something petty as driving without headlights or wipers. i could really care less....besides....it is disrespectful to tell another driver (new or old) how to drive their truck. I was coming out of Nashville a week or so ago, hardly anybody on the road, and i was crowding the left hand part of my lane. NEVER once did i cross the line. Yet some butt-crack super trucker thinks he needs to give me crap saying "time to pull it over Swifty, truck stop back there, pull it over and go to bed..." then him and another driver start whining about me. Then the other day, i'm driving past a truck stop, and hear someone get on and say, "you want me to come over and back it up for you?" I got on and said, "...you were a newbie once too, yeah?" And that must have rubbed him the wrong way cause he starts in with your typical CB tuff guy crap, "come on over and ill show you..." I told him "i got better things to do.....like deliver my load."
which brings me to the post of the guy who followed another driver to their terminal. This day and age, that 'tough guy' attitude is going to get someone shot. Sitting in a truck stop and hearing all the "...come on over here and ill show you..." Please. shut the ##$% up already. Neither one of you are going to do anything, so why pretend. Just gives our profession a worse name than we already have. Now if i come out, and happen to see another driver screwing with my air lines, 5th wheel or tandem handle, thats another thing. Now you are screwing with me....wanting me to get into an accident.
So to the driver who followed another to their terminal...why waste your time? yeah it was worth it to get rid of that driver, but still. You spent an hour out of your way, when you could have got down the road another 70 miles. and then had something happened, you'd have been detained for hours more. Sorry, thats just stooopid.
gotta love those Radio Bullys.....if you're going to say something on the radio, man up and tell them to meet you in the drivers lounge and you can discuss things face to face.
But here is how I look at my actions in a truck stop. I will always think about other drivers. If whatever i am doing would annoy ME if i was behind a driver doing what i was doing, how would I react. As far as driving thru a fuel island and pulling up to the pay line to go inside for 5 minutes, i see no problem with that. Now if there is hardly any room to have 5-6 trucks pulled up and able to let other drivers go around, yeah, i'd just find a parking spot. Heck, if i pull into a stop, and see 10 empty pumps, and there isnt much room on the payline to get around me, i might just park it at a pump. but i dont dilly dally.Click to expand... -
When the police run a speed trap, the observer tells the trooper on the ground what vehicle and how fast it was going, then the observer has to watch the vehicle until the trooper on the ground lights it up. When the motorist appears in court the trooper who wrote the ticket and the trooper acting as observer both appear in court to explain how the motorist was clocked.
The observer tells the court that he watched the vehicle from the air, started the timer as the vehicle crossed the start mark, stopped the timer at the finish mark, the known distance between the marks and the method of computing the speed. When done correctly, the motorist has little to no defense.
Back in the eighties, I heard a driver on the radio talking about getting a ticket for speeding around the southbound rest area on I-71 just north of Columbus.
He said the trooper stopped him and 5 or 6 other trucks and said they were clocked by air doing 69 MPH. I told him there was no police aircraft doing speed enforcement there and he asked how I knew that.
I explained that Slohio uses VHF low band and that you can hear them on the scanner for miles before you get to where they're working. I told him that if he sent in a plea of not guilty the cop who wrote the ticket would fail to show up in court, while he may lie, he wouldn't find another trooper who would lie for him. I knew there was no aircraft working within fifty miles, because I would have heard them on the scanner. Some states that are just looking for revenue figure that out of state motorists are good for a quick fine because they can't or won't come back to fight the ticket, and will just mail in the fine.Hyper Thanks this. -
I rarely pass a truck without asking *politely* if the driver needs help. I NEVER tell another driver how to drive his truck. At worst, I'll fire up the radio and ask the other driver to please do something (like, turn on his lights or some such) "Driver, please turn on your lights, I almost didn't see you"
I try to couch it in such a way as to make it sound like *I* need the help.
On occasion, I've been known to offer help to another driver trying to park.. I don't say "do you need help?" instead - I put it "would you LIKE some assistance?" Use words that are less ... inflamatorytinytim Thanks this. -
I'm a Swifty noob also. I'm still in training and bend over backwards to be safe and courteous to all traffic on the road. Most truckers acknowledge courtesy when it is given, but there are a few super truckers that won't signal when allowed in or speed on downgrades to get around a lot of traffic. I can smell their brakes all the way down, while I have geared down and run the Jake brake.
Being a Swifty means you're the butt of everyone's jokes too. I guess, petty insecure people have to have someone to look down on too.
I think it says a lot more about the person saying it than the person it's directed to...
KGB0911 said: ↑I am a newbie swift driver. Been solo since mid-Nov...driving since mid Sept. I wouldn't presume to tell anybody anything other than a 'bear warning' or 4-wheelers broke down with half their car sticking out into a lane of traffic. I surely am not going to get on, and tell another driver something petty as driving without headlights or wipers. i could really care less....besides....it is disrespectful to tell another driver (new or old) how to drive their truck. I was coming out of Nashville a week or so ago, hardly anybody on the road, and i was crowding the left hand part of my lane. NEVER once did i cross the line. Yet some butt-crack super trucker thinks he needs to give me crap saying "time to pull it over Swifty, truck stop back there, pull it over and go to bed..." then him and another driver start whining about me. Then the other day, i'm driving past a truck stop, and hear someone get on and say, "you want me to come over and back it up for you?" I got on and said, "...you were a newbie once too, yeah?" And that must have rubbed him the wrong way cause he starts in with your typical CB tuff guy crap, "come on over and ill show you..." I told him "i got better things to do.....like deliver my load."
which brings me to the post of the guy who followed another driver to their terminal. This day and age, that 'tough guy' attitude is going to get someone shot. Sitting in a truck stop and hearing all the "...come on over here and ill show you..." Please. shut the ##$% up already. Neither one of you are going to do anything, so why pretend. Just gives our profession a worse name than we already have. Now if i come out, and happen to see another driver screwing with my air lines, 5th wheel or tandem handle, thats another thing. Now you are screwing with me....wanting me to get into an accident.
So to the driver who followed another to their terminal...why waste your time? yeah it was worth it to get rid of that driver, but still. You spent an hour out of your way, when you could have got down the road another 70 miles. and then had something happened, you'd have been detained for hours more. Sorry, thats just stooopid.
gotta love those Radio Bullys.....if you're going to say something on the radio, man up and tell them to meet you in the drivers lounge and you can discuss things face to face.
But here is how I look at my actions in a truck stop. I will always think about other drivers. If whatever i am doing would annoy ME if i was behind a driver doing what i was doing, how would I react. As far as driving thru a fuel island and pulling up to the pay line to go inside for 5 minutes, i see no problem with that. Now if there is hardly any room to have 5-6 trucks pulled up and able to let other drivers go around, yeah, i'd just find a parking spot. Heck, if i pull into a stop, and see 10 empty pumps, and there isnt much room on the payline to get around me, i might just park it at a pump. but i dont dilly dally.Click to expand... -
Reminds me of playing on Xbox Live, playing in chat rooms, or anywhere else people can hide behind anonymity. The worst comes out f people . . . or perhaps their true selves come out
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I honestly cant remember the last time a driver stoped and asked if I needed help slidding my Tand!!! It used to be a common thing but anymore the only help you get is when someone wants to point out something he or she may do diffrently.
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I have two whole weeks on the road solo (that tells you how green I am). The other day I had to slide my tandems and my fifth wheel to get the load scaled right. The tandems went fine but I couldn't get the fifth wheel to move at all. After a few tries another driver came over and showed me how to dolly down the trailer and slide the fifth wheel. I would have never thought of that. Without his help I guess I would still be there trying to get that load right. There are drivers who will still help out a newbie. And newbies who definitely appreciate the help.
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Mountainman444 said: ↑I have two whole weeks on the road solo (that tells you how green I am). The other day I had to slide my tandems and my fifth wheel to get the load scaled right. The tandems went fine but I couldn't get the fifth wheel to move at all. After a few tries another driver came over and showed me how to dolly down the trailer and slide the fifth wheel. I would have never thought of that. Without his help I guess I would still be there trying to get that load right. There are drivers who will still help out a newbie. And newbies who definitely appreciate the help.
JoeClick to expand...
Hey Joe... Just remember to pay that favor back by helping out another driver sometime. I believe in KARMA and what comes around goes around. If we all would work together out here our jobs and lifes would be so much better! Thanks for that post, hopefuly you inspired at least one driver to look for a good deed to hand out!
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