Matching transmission to gears help

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  1. WREN

    WREN Medium Load Member

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    Ok y'all been trying to use a few calculators and I'm not do I g it right I guess. Anyways, I have a direct 9 speed I believe (will verify in a little while) and 4.42 gearing. At 50 I'm turning 2k rpms. I want to change this desperately so I'm wanting an overdrive 9 speed. Any help would be good. I have 2 other trucks with10 speeds and 3.90s
     
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  3. Bean Jr.

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    Overdrive 9 speed won't help that much, and I suspect you have one already. 4.42 is slow, even slower than 55 mph slow.

    3.90s are, unless you need low gears, are still pretty slow. At 65 with a 13 speed and 11r24.5, I'm at 1,600, which is fine for 12.7 Detroit, but I wouldn't wind a big motor like that.
     
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    Yeah I'm hauling timber which is heavy. The motor is a big cam 290 so I'm looking for recommendations for sure
     
  5. RET423

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    Just buy a 4 speed brownie and hang it behind your current transmission, you will have perfect gears for every conceivable situation.
     
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    If I were able to change transmissions and rearends, I would put in a 15 speed and 3.90s. With that Cummins, I'd probably be willing to buzz it a little more than my engine, but not that much. That would get your highway rpms down and get your speed up, but you'd still have your off road granny gears.
     
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  7. WREN

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    What is a 4 speed brownie
     
  8. swaan

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    Hauling heavy with a 290 Cummins. He might just need all those 4:42 can offer.

    Also don't those older big cams like to sing. Sounds like its geared perfect to me.

    If anything get rid of that 9 speed and put a rtlo18 in there. Be perfect.
     
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  9. Oxbow

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    It is an auxiliary transmission that typically has four gears:
    1. Lo lo
    2. Lo
    3. Direct
    4. Overdrive
    This would allow you much more reduction starting out, and an overdrive to help out with highway speeds.
    I am not sure that it would be the most cost effective solution though. As Swaan said, if you can replace it with a double overdrive 18 speed (.85 and .73) it will help out a bunch. With your rears a 13 speed will work as well.
    Your shiney 290 probably needs the rears that you have, and I would say that you want to run it from 1700 to 2100 anyway.
     
  10. WREN

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    Ok, the trans I have is an rtx12609b. So it's an overdrive trans and I'm turning those high rpms. Also I'm running 22.5s
     
  11. Oxbow

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    Something's not right here.
    According to my calculations:
    rtx12609B has a .73 overdrive
    11R22.5 tires have a revolution per mile of 498
    2000 RPM x 60 (revs per hour)=120,000
    120,000 /.73 = 164,383.56
    164,383.56 / 4.42 = 37190.85
    37190.85 / 498 = 74.68 mph

    The Eaton road speed calculator ( Calculators )
    does not list a 4.42 ratio, but with a 4.33 you are @ 76.2, and with 4.56 you are @ 72.4. @ 2000 RPM.
    With a direct transmission you would be around 52 mph with 4.42 rears and 11R22.5 tall tires.
    An RTX 12609P is a direct drive transmission. Is it possible that that is what you have?
     
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