4m experiance... w/ 3 preventable

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by jasin18, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. pb500

    pb500 Bobtail Member

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    jasin18,

    1pissedoffdriver is correct. You will eventually get a 2nd chance and time will eventually erase the incidents from your record.
     
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  3. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    YeAH, ...... but three times within the first four months?
    Minor, major, or somewhere inbetwixt, --- in the Big truck truckin' industry, a "screw-up" is a screw-up.
    And could well be an indicator of things to come.
    Ya reckon.
    "Sonny Pruitt? Movin' On?
    Is that a pun, or a suggestion for Jasin?

    Let me see if I understand where you're comin' from ----
    In your mind, "(Do-Gooder)"s and/or "perfect Billy Big Riggers" are those who have had no, or VERY few, careless incidents and/or crashes?
    And you don't think THEY'RE someone worth listenin' to?
    Hmmmmmmmmmmm

    I sure would, and in fact, DiD.
    Why listen to those experienced in being involved in careless incidents? What can they teach y'all how to do, as compared to Do-Gooders and/or Billy Big Rigger?

    And don't beat-up the equipment either.
    Three incidents in the FIRST four months --- is "learning"?
    Not "ALL" of "us" have done that. :biggrin_25512:
    Ever wonder why?
    Twue!
    But some ARE better than others.
    And those who ARE better seem to be labeled "Do-Gooders" and/or "Billy Big Riggers".
    Hmmmmmmm
    Envy?
    Twue again.
    And some use bigger screws
    I can't imagine why the trailer brakes got "locked up". :biggrin_2551:
    Or why you found it necessary to do so.

    Ahhhhh, ...... but it's only money.
    Right?
    You think that's funny?
    Putting the general motoring public in grave danger is FUNNY?! :biggrin_2552:
    Hmmmmmmmm
    That's scary!
    With a little luck, those grand kids will live long enough to put you there. But as long as the Do-Gooders and/or Billy Big Riggers are being replaced by crashes lookin' for a place to happen, ----
    What are the odds they will?

    What about those who want safer streets and highways?
    Do they get a vote?
    Or should they HIDE under those "rocks"?
    What willl come?
    An injury, ....... or worse?
    :biggrin_2551: Now, ...... that right thar is AfterShocking.
    "SCHOOL BUS?!!! :biggrin_2551::biggrin_2552::biggrin_2551:
    Then, you should also "know" that by the time a careless driver matures enough after three incidents within their first four months drivin' a Big truck, their CDL-A will be so stale that NObody will hire 'em --- and it's back to square one, again.
    To do it all OVER again, maybe? :smt102

    That's the second time you're used the term, "corrupt business", ----
    And I wonder if it's your opinion that's it's "corrupt" because the Big truck truckin' industry, and their insurance carriers, frown on damaging equipment and/or crashes, ---
    and tend to focus more on safety?
    And where ARE you?
    :biggrin_2551:
    Is that a good excuse or a reason?

    "Second chance"? Maybe.
    But a "THIRD CHANCE"?!
    UNCLE!

    Where should the line be drawn?
    When someone is injured, ........ or worse?

    When should the grafitti on the wall be read?

    Good advice for ANY job. Even NON-driving jobs.
    Weeding out careless Big truck truck drivrs is "RED TAPE BULL CRAP"?!.
    Hmmmmmmmm

    I reckon there are those who consider it a RED FLAG.
    I'd be more concerned with taking a careless attitude away.
    Me neither. But I'd like to know so I won't be on the same path at the same time.
    Which "miracle" would that be?
    And do you think that perhaps that "miracle" has ALREADY occurred?

    I once, or twice, thought about startin' my own business, too.
    But I ain't real good at candy-coating. :biggrin_25512:

    There's NO shame and/or disgrace in not being able to cut it in the
    Big truck truckin' industry.
    However, IMO, there IS if one won't admit it to themselves, and do
    the RIGHT thing.

    Would y'all agree that when elderly drivers no longer have the reflexes, eyesight, mental capacity, and/or ability to safely operate a motor vehicle on the highways, ----
    They should be removed by denying their driving privlidge ?

    And do y'all respect those elderly drivers who realize their short-comings, and voluntarily remove themSLEVES from the streets and highways, ----
    Instead of taking a chance that they could be involved in something unpleasant, and possibly involving others?
    I do.
    But, then again, I'm probably one of those
    "DO-GOODERS" --- having around a million, crash-free mile-markers in my "Billy Big Rigger",
    big back pocket.

    Safety is NO accident.
    The best excuse is NO excuse.
    Git-'er-done.
     
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  4. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    AfterShock, That's one of your best post I've seen.
     
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  5. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    No company with any sense is going to analyze your accident history when they have a stack of applications of drivers with clean records. You may feel that these accidents were minor in nature but they are indicators for companies to look at. If I were you I'd look for work elsewhere like demo work where you can tear sh** up and have fun at it too. IOW's it might be easier to find a good job in another field.
     
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  6. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    Thank YeW!

    I'm a Billy Big Baaadd man -------> :naka:
    Or, so I've been informed.
    :biggrin_25523:
    Several times.
    And I wouldn't be surprised if
    I hear it again. :biggrin_25512:
     
  7. Pur48Ted

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    DAC is governed by the FAIR CREDIT REPORTING ACT and you are entitled to ONE FREE copy of your DAC report per year; OR (a free copy) if you suspect incorrect information on it.
    Call 800 322-9651 for more information.
    But SERIOUSLY!
    3 accidents in 4 months?????
    Good Luck.

    Accidents are REPORTABLE by the employer if THEY determine they are PREVENTABLE, and they would be on your DAC Report (if your employer is a USIS subscriber).
    HOWEVER; it IS possible (don't ask me how) to REVERSE the determination (from Preventable to NON-Preventable) if they are in-fact NON-PREVENTABLE accidents.
     
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  8. MGASSEL

    MGASSEL Road Train Member

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    It will be verry hard for him to get them changed as non preventable as he was not smart enough to not damage the property. Im my oppinion all these incedents or accidents were preventable all he would of had to do is pay attention to everything arround him.

    You see too much trailer in one mirror then stop.

    When you hook up to trailers you should always watch your mirrors.

    Watch your surroundings so you do not hit anything.

    If it looks like you are too close then stop an look.
     
  9. jasin18

    jasin18 Bobtail Member

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    after shock acts like all of my accidents were serious in nature, like i pulled out into traffic and not even looked, seriously, i've been driving sense 2003 and have had no accidents or incidents driving, but driving a big rig is a little different, and im still learning. and the last more serious accident wasnt even my fault because the driver wasnt paying attention, or did it on purpose so he could get a new car b/c he was not mad, upset, shaken up or anything, it was like he didn't even care he totaled his 93 buick, lol (with a sony xplod system in the back as well) of course he wanted a new car.

    If i considered my self a unsafe driver i wouldn't drive, but i do and i am, i have never hurt or killed anyone or anything. And as of right now im still driving for a living, just not a big rig untill i find something else. Driving is my life and it is what i do.

    And no its not a matter of time till i do, i wont, i've never even came close to having a serious accident and it being my fault. We about got taken out today in our 06 cobalt taking a left turn with a green arrow and the car on the other side comes on through strait ahead, some people just cannot drive, and i know i can.
     
  10. AfterShock

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    Jasin acts like all of his accidents weren't serious in nature.
    Have you already forgotten the three incidents in the first four months you've recently been involved in?
    YuP!
    The bigger the Big truck the harder it crashes into thangs.
    Your lessons seem to be rather expensive ---
    for the truckin' company.
    Would you be willing to accept complete responsibility --- including paying out of YOUR own pocket for any and ALL damage you do to any equipment assigned to you, --- or cause to other equipment?
    Were YOU "paying attention" when YOU had YOUR "accidents"?
    Not mad, upset, shaken-up, stirred, or ANYthing?
    Hmmmmmmmmm
    Kinda sounds like you.
    Other than it cost you your job, how much do YOU care that you damaged equipment?
    "XPlod" System?
    Well of course you wanted to keep your job, as well.

    WoAH! :biggrin_2551:
    You said that, I just believe it. :yes2557:
    I think most of us here have never had three incidents in four months, ..... or anything.
    You've only been drivin' Big trucks for a couple of months, ---
    and already it's "your life" and "what you do"?
    Imagine that.
    Now imagine this
    The problem is, you seem to hit objects while doin' what'cha do, and worse yet ---
    You don't seem to think it's a big deal when you do.

    :biggrin_2554:Are you listening to what you're writing?
    It's comin' across on my monitor as a tad immature.
    Please define "never", "close", "serious" and "accident", --- and may as well include "fault" while you're thinkin' 'bout it.
    Tell me YOU weren't driving that '06 Cobalt that about got "taken out". :biggrin_2555:
    And if you were, let me guess ---
    it wasn't YOUR fault -- this time -- either. :biggrin_25512:



    Know what it sounds like to me?
    You're an incident magnet. :yes2557:

    Have you ever heard of Murphy's Law? :biggrin_2552:
     
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  11. Giddy Up Go

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    I'm thinkin' you oughta try NASCAR.
     
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