Attention wannabes considering werner

Discussion in 'Werner' started by LetsChangeThis, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. wetsand

    wetsand Bobtail Member

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    i understand, but look at it from the point of view of the company, you and the felon in the next lane are performing "identical" tasks, the fact that you have 22 years of ops management and a degree is irrelevant, it's not required nor rewarded for the task. you pick up a load from point A and drop off at point B, nothing fancier than that.

    that's the point I'm trying to make, that the the actual work being performed is so primitive that it doesn't warrant much of a pay in this company's eyes.hence why it makes sense for them to have a student driver behind the wheel than someone with experience demanding more pay, because as far as they're concerned they land the contracts and the loads, run the business, and the trucks do the work, doesn't matter if Mr President is behind the wheel or bud the smoking monkey as long as the load is picked up and dropped off on time.:biggrin_25525:

    having said all this, i'm looking into entering this truck driving business..... talk about a sharp knife in the drawer LOL...
     
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  3. mademistakesb4

    mademistakesb4 Light Load Member

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    Bud the Smoking Monkey LOL I think he used to driver for CR England too lol
     
  4. mademistakesb4

    mademistakesb4 Light Load Member

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    not that I have had this problem yet but if it loads I though warninglabel.jpg it was funny
     
  5. chucky

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    Werner, Swift, CR England have to be doing something right. CR England has a 200% turnover rate. Simply put, for every driver they hire two leave. Swift and Werner are up there too. Turnovers are going to get worse before it gets better IMHO.

    I will say this for these companies, by paying new drivers .26 cpm or lower they don't have to pay veteran drivers .36 + cpm. Most decent companies are following this approach by laying off veteran drivers and bringing in greenhorns at lower rates.

    Veteran drivers with late loads, high idling times, tickets, logs not matching qualcomm, etc, are terminated, or laid off and bang a newbie replaces them.
     
  6. luvtheroad

    luvtheroad Road Train Member

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    You may be right about turnover getting worse, with the lack of freight out there, a lot of drivers are sitting or going to sit. Some for not just a day but for days depending upon who they work for. Some will stick it out, but a large portion of them will leave and won't look for work in the trucking industry again. The companies do hire cheaper because there is such a long line of people who want to be drivers. No matter what the reason are, they want to drive. But, the smartest companies are using the new drivers to replace only the drivers leaving. They arent just laying off the higher paid drivers just for the money thing. I do not agree with hiring inexperienced drivers for such small amounts of money that they can barely survive but I also think that everyone should be expected to pay his/her "dues" and work up the ladder. That driver who is making good RMP didn't just get it dropped in his lap, he worked for it and stayed with the company who continued to raise his RPM.
    The expecienced drivers that are being let go are for the reason that you listed above in your post. There are so many good drivers out of jobs due to company closings and cutbacks, why shouldnt they be picked up to replace the guys who can't go their jobs to the best of their abilities. It comes to the old adage " a days pay for an honest days work" This is just my opinion.
     
  7. jjranch

    jjranch Road Train Member

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    Keep in mind that a company won't get rid of all of their Experienced drivers because it will lower their Safety rating with the FMCSA. But they will cut back on them from time to time.
     
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  8. andrew5184

    andrew5184 Light Load Member

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    All humor aside, I'm not sure how comfortable I am driving down a highway with a monkey operating an 80,000 pound vehicle within close proximity to me, much less a monkey whose attention is split between the road and ashing his cigarette. Actually, I am sure; not comfortable at all! You're analysis might be correct from most companies' points of view, but it represents one of the many problems facing the industry.

    I also tend to disagree with the notion that the job is easy. I wasn't aware that new trucks were equipped with auto pilot. Anyone who approaches it with that mindset, in my opinion, should not be allowed in the cab. I'd also like to see the statistics that suggest a significant number of truck drivers are felons.

    But there's more to it than that. Drivers choose a lifestyle that takes them away from the ones they love so that the rest of us, in turn, can live the lifestyle we choose. In other words, there are many different points to consider when attempting to arrive at an appropriate level of compensation, but I'm sure you knew that, and I believe some companies recognize that, even if the Werner's of the world do not.

    While I can appreciate the humor to a certain extent, your posts suggest a way of thinking that will not be conducive to a happy career in trucking.
     
  9. luvtheroad

    luvtheroad Road Train Member

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    While I will admit that I dont know the stats on the number of felons on the road, I do know for a fact that some carriers will hire them. They will let felons apply and it's done on a thing of "let's look at it and see" Don't know what constitutes a "good" felony or a "bad" one.

    I am not going to name the carriers that do but if you look at the websites and applications it does state that they do hire them.

    I've never worked for a carrier who did but there are those who do. Just an FYI.
     
  10. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    It's a trap. All felonies are theft, drugs, and violence. So saying they consider felonies aside from those is pretty disingenuous. Maybe writing a bad check over a certain amount or something could be considered.
     
  11. luvtheroad

    luvtheroad Road Train Member

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    What do you mean " It's a trap"?

    There are a lot more things than theft, drugs and violence that are felonies. A lot of little things that none of us would consider to be, are in fact.

    Some companies look at what the felony consists of and they go from there. Maybe they look at the little stupid things that people have done as not so important in the big picture. And just maybe, they might have the attitude that hiring that person when no one else will, might get them a good decent loyal employee. But, who knows if they still take them with the surplus of drivers with good backgrounds and driving experience.
     
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