Hiding Income From Ex-Wife

I am appalled at all these so called "fathers" trying to hide money to lower the child support.... Believe me I had satan for an ex-wife and we spent alot of time in court for modifications some went up and some went down. A great familiy lawyer is a good idea. However I understand the new plasma tvs cars and stuff the ex now has that i dont..upsets you..BUT and this is a BIG BUT my Kids had a roof over their head they had clothes on their backs they had food in their stomachs...as long as the ex provides these IT DOESNT matter what she spends the money on CUZ the kids use it too....TOOK ME 10 years to figure that out...Now i will say this my child support obligation ended 12-26-08 LORD I will actually get a full pay check again...but remember this FATHERS its about taking care of YOUR OFFSPRING not the ex. And if you cant do that I have no respect for you and you are part of the reason divorced fathers get a bad wrap "DEAD BEAT DADS" MAN UP do the right thing and take care of YOUR KIDS.

 

Thank you PeterbiltCouple and Roadmedic for the advice. Yes, it's definitely a difficult situation for non-custodial parents to prove any wrong doing by the custodial parent. If the tables were turned, I'm sure they would impute income to me.. So even if they continue to impute an income of minimum wage, that is what I hope they do. My income has gone down significantly since support was
ordered, but I never requested a downward modification based on it. Oddly enough, she's now attempting to increase support by lowering her income. Go figure. I will definitely consult an attorney, if all fails, I'll just suck it up. Thanks again for your responses.
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You're welcome. As for the two previous posts, you have absolutely no idea what the circumstances are yet you are assuming things and judging people. There are NCP's who do everything by the book and much more, yet are still lied about and cheated. My hubby always paid more than his dues (even for ones who weren't his own) and loved his children. I will say no more.

 

God I could tell you some stories! The FOC up her in Wayne County Michigan (Detroit), based my support on my FAMILIES BUSINESS! And I did not even WORK FOR MY FAMILY!!!!! I was a truck driver, working for an out of state trucking company! I did not even have an address in Michigan!

I have been through the ringer with this bunch more times than I can count. And just wait till you get in arrears! I fell a month behind due to job loss, and after compounding daily, monthly and quarterly interest my $1000 dollar arear ballooned to over $100,000!!!!! It took years to straighten that out. My new wife and I finally settled it at $56,000.00 CASH! One month behind! And I had all of the records, pay stubs, money orders, etc...

There were times my support bills were $635 a WEEK! I paid them, as it was nothing for them to send the sherriff out to haul you away to do 90 in the county lock up.

Good luck! I wish I had some answers for you, and I tried all of the tricks in the book. One thing I discovered early on, is that THEY do not play by any rules. You are on your own, as you really have no rights in these matters.

Mike

 

And when I say "every trick in the book", I mean legal tricks, with a lawyer.

I paid and paid and paid... As did my family, emotionally and financially. She had her season tickets to the Red Wings and Lions, while I scraped by trying to eat and live in a truck. She accused me of every horrendous thing under the sun relating to my daughter. Accused me of stalking, sending friends to vandalize her car, you name it. I didn't see my daughter for well over 14 years. When I finally met her, the damage was done.

And I did the court stuff, tens of thousands in attorney fees, modifications, challenges for visitation, which I had full rights with no restrictions. God I could go on. The attorneys got rich and I finally through in the towel.

Eventually the state intervened and put a stop to all of it. That Detroit FOC made headlines with all of their fraud, outright theft and abuse of the fathers.

Like I said, the state got involved, took our $56 grand and called it a day. They put me on a locked in payment of $90 a week and basically set me free. Told me I could do whatever I want, work or business wise, the payment would not change for any reason. Even the ex had no say in the matter. That was right from the state capital in Lansing.

I made my last payment in 07. But, like I said, the damage is done. The daughter is nothing but trouble like her mother, tatooed and pierced head to toe, and last I heard in some dump in Florida. My wife and family tried to help her out, got her teeth fixed and took care of some other medical problems. Bought her a car, computers, etc... But, we are still called every name in the book. The girl is very cold, and I can see why. She was nothing more than a pawn in a sick woman's game for cash.

There is allot more to all of this then told here, her drug abuse after the marriage failed, etc. It was a mess, and the only winners were the lawyers.

You can judge some of us harshly for trying to run. I thought about it, even suicide. It was that bad. I hung in there and made it without snapping. But I was labeled a dead beat dad for years, even though I paid. The system made my life a living hell, unjustly labeled me and ruined some of the most promising times of my life.

Mike

 

jmmcade This is a great topic that thread you started you I gave you thanks,
hang in there, it'll get better and get a good lawyer, you gotta get a real shark. Theres 1 that i know of here in san Diego. Wholey Monkey ####t he's really good. He'll flip the script on em and go after HER For support and alimoney and the cars and the house and all bills, ive never seen an atty. like this guy. And you wanna know what else? HE gets it! shes payin alimoney and he's got cust. of the kids.Didnt quite work out the way she planned
good luck
WOW WATERLOO, i just read your post, now thats some heavy stuff right there. I guess im lucky, the wife and i have had our ups and downs and have even split up for a time but always mananged to pull it back together. Weve got to much history i guess.....weve raised our kids and our daughter just turned 20 and is gearing up for college in the spring
Hopefully someday your daughter will come around and wake up to what her mom was up to. Just keep Reaching out to her, and dont have to do it every day or every week but once in a while, pick up that phone or stop in when you're truckin thru let her know that you are there for her no matter what she does in this life. That seems to hit them the hardest mentaly when they know "dad" is and still does loves them and has her back

 

Mike, I know your post wasn't meant to solicit sympathy, but to make people aware of situations that develop from child custody/support/alimony arrangements. But my jaw dropped reading what you posted... and my heart hurts for what you've lost -- not just financially, but the years spent struggling with the strain of the fight. And most importantly, the opportunity to be a positive influence in your daughter's life. I'm so sorry.

 

This is why men must take control of their reproductive actions. If the guy did not want to have a kid then he should have been using condoms every time or had a vasectomy until he was financially up to the task to become a father. Vasectomies are pretty cheap (about $200.00) compared to raising a child for 18 years. Reversals are more expensive but also pretty common now a days.

Fathers are supposed to teach their sons about this stuff so they will not get trapped in a relationship or forced to support a child they had no intention of creating in the first place with a female that was looking for a free ride financially.

Live and learn I guess.

 

A friend of mine did this: All the money the "company makes"(whatever company name you make it) goes into a business account. He pays for truck, supplies, ect. out of the business account and pays himself a small salary too. That way the x wife only gets a small portion of the salary.

 

Actually, this is very much how it can/could be done.

Start with a finacial guy/attorney... Get 2 or 3 small Corporations(LLC) started for your business as a O/O... One for the Truck(ie someing Operations Transit)... then one for fuel(ie Something Logistics)... Then, maybe even one for freight or storage(Something Warehouse/Storage...rent a small storage spot).

Issue stock....Find a VERY trusted person to hold controlling shares(mother, father, brother). Issue stock to the Ex-wife with payable dividends on profit(perhaps quarterly...maybe even yearly). If done right she(the Ex) may only be allowed stock in one Company...say the Operations Transit one. The other Corps could be slightly juiced with extra coin leaving a smaller net 25% for the evil Ex....



However, put some of the saved coin away for your kids... and start college funds... That way the kids get the money... not the Ex taking her new boyfriend on a cruise to Cancun... Like what happened to my best friend.