I feel like giving up on drivers :(

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Jan 10, 2008.

  1. thomas

    thomas Light Load Member

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    I was reading the news letter this month and it said there have been a lot of drivers loging over 100mph on there logs..... all I could think was WHY????
     
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  3. Biker

    Biker Medium Load Member

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    Usually it's an error they've made in calulating their driving time, or they've "shaved" too much time off line 3 during their 11 hours. I got tagged for that during training (was TOO honest) and got a few majors for speeding (over 60 mph in a company truck). Once I got that figured out and exactly what the log department was looking for, haven't had a single major since.
     
  4. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Maybe the economy, ummm maybe their data entry of the log miles is not correct which is very very common.

    But if the drivers are really logging 100 mph that's just my point it's a never ending battle.

    Be very carefull because when dot stops you and when they come in to audit your logs they are doing a point to point on each of your destinations to make sure you showed enough driving time versus the "real" speed limit of that state. Yeah the computers only go by one set mile and take the driving time x's that mile but DOT & some companies audit the point to point (we audit point to point) so you might get by yeah with the company but legal reason etc it might not come through ok.
     
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  5. RECON08

    RECON08 Light Load Member

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    I see alot of it happening two ways.
    1. old school drivers not wanting to get with the new ways
    2. the DM's and sometime Planners pushing a driver to do the wrong thing, and quietly threatning them with thier miles and job.

    the only way i see this changing and the industry getting honest is when logs and saftey both are in the same room with the planners and DM's and actually monitoring the boards and phone conversations and not allowing themselves to get all chummy with them, actually being there to protect the driver and the company.
     
  6. Biker

    Biker Medium Load Member

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    Oh I am careful. Technically, my truck is governed at 67 mph. However, I can only log 65 mph per company rules. Hence, a bit o' shaving here and there. ;)
     
  7. jtrnr1951

    jtrnr1951 Road Train Member

    I'd be willing to bet-it hasn't changed abit, has it ??
     
  8. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    I feel your pain.:biggrin_2554:
     
  9. Rollover the Original

    Rollover the Original Road Train Member

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    Dieselbear, I've been in the scales when the logbooks get opened and love some of the things a driver can come up with! I especially love the "you're supposed to give me 15 minutes to get my log book caught up" but that's not the way it reads in the "little book"!

    A driver failing only to have possession of a record of duty status current on the day of examination and the prior day, but has completed records of duty status up to that time (previous 6 days), will be given the opportunity to make the duty status record current.

    I always hope they have the last 6 days done but usually they are several days behind! Man I look back at being that dumb and realize I spent more time trying to remember and figure stuff out that if I log it as I did it!
     
  10. jonr29657

    jonr29657 Bobtail Member

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    Question:
    In keeping logs current, when you are directed up into the scale house, and maybe round back do you show that b4 going into the house or what?
    I know we have to keep logs current (within 2 hrs of current time)
     
  11. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Actually I believe that it is the last change of duty as far as legal, company policy maybe different. If your within 2 hours dot won't give you grief about that. The stuff I have seen on scale house walls is almost indescribable . One showed OK City to Mojave ca in 1 drive shift.

    When fatigue sets in you can't even logically figure it out, hence the whole point about stop and sleep. If your shaving more than rounding off your 15 minutes its going to put you way over speed. Just writing down less miles at the top of the page does not shorten up the distance traveled when you get audited.

    You really need to double check your log after your nap before you drive. It amazing how a few hours sleep change the way you look at the book.
     
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