Anybody see a problem here?

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  1. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    I don't think I would enjoy sitting down and having a beer with him.
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    A repulsive thought.

    There were actually members here that thought we were mean to Kim Kardashian.

    Kim' Honked a bobo and now an expert on gun control' Kardashian.
     
  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I’d love to take that idiot to school on that subject. I’ve forgotten more about firearms than the Cardassian could ever pick up from a lifetime of media hogwash.
     
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  5. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    JDs or Hitachis?

    Or are they about the same?
     
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    Same machine except the motor. Our 450 Hitachi is right in the middle of our two Deere’s as far as weight.
     
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    kat man Light Load Member

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    johndeer4020 The you tube guy needed to remove stick pin then wont he change a little.
     
  8. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    That must be with the counterweight off, and no bucket?
    My annual permit allows up to 135,000 on 7 axles for most highways, higher on the interstate. my lightweight is 43,000 +/-. The problem that I have is that I can only go about 14,000 on my steers, so I am going to be up to 61,000 on each of the three axle groups. This restricts me to only our "Black Route" highways, which allow 70,500 on a tridem. The machine we are looking at is a variable gauge machine as well, which adds some weight.
    The Cat Handbook says that it should weigh 108,000 fully dressed. With the counterweight off it says I should shed 19,780 pounds, and if we remove the bucket (no quick coupler) I am guessing another 5,000 lbs. (72" 3.5 cy bucket). which leaves 83,220, and I have no problems. I would venture though that it is a bit heavier than that.
    So, I'm faced with adding a fourth axle and/or spreader bar, which Aspen cannot verify that the trailer was built to accommodate, or buying a bigger lowboy. I am likely to look into an older 2+2+2, or 2+3+1 and keep our current lowboy for all the smaller stuff.
     
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    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Been a lot easier to back it up.
     
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    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Yes that’s without the counterweight or buckets (quick coupler installed) I would say you would be pretty close on weight.
     
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  11. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Here’s the big issue that I see, after having watched it.

    What you see here is the joint between the bucket and the stick. It’s not sitting on a crossmember.

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    Instead, this is what is bearing the weight of the boom.

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    That’s what @Oxbow is talking about, and I don’t like it either. Hydraulic cylinders don’t take kindly to being side loaded in this way.
     
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