Recession or Depression?
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a conspiracy to keep the poor,just that way poor. The rich and powerfull play their get rich quick schemes at the cost of the hard working taxpaying people of this country. The middle class is just about extinct.....they herd us around like sheep...
they tell us lies and blind us to the truth....but truth and justice have a way of prevailing....at what cost, I don't know.
Our childrens futures are at stake, will we really let them gamble it all away so they can crap on us today? this is just my opinion....... -
well with the bailout from last year and the one they are fixing to pass they are almost half way to 3.5 trillion as it is [1.7 trillion].
add the next bailout they are talking about for this summer estimated at 1.2 trillion that puts us at 2.9 trillion so all they would have to come up with is 600 billion more and there you have it and it would do a lot more good than what they are doing now, just throwing money down a rat hole. -
Yes and this would have been possible considering there were about 138 million taxpayers in '07. Take the first bad money bailout of 850 billion and divide it out to all taxpayers. That's 6159.42 in every taxpayers pocket. I think that would stimulate the economy more than taking our money and giving it to the rich ****ups who got us in this mess to start with, at the same time lowering the value of what's left in my pocket by putting so much into circulation. Luckily they haven't taken out of our pockets yet, but that will come in due time with these socialist driven nutjobs the american idiots put in office. They say Bush was the worst president in history. I beg to differ. We haven't had a single attack on US soil since 9/11. An eyeopening wakeup call that is all but forgotten. Also Bush gave the American people the most tax breaks anybody in this country has ever seen, all while at war, all while dealing with a useless democrap house. The good ole days are long gone now and people will be begging for another Bush in 4 years ya'll wait and see. Anyways, sorry to have sidetracked a bit but back to topic. Let's see where we're at currently. 1.7 trillion divided out among all taxpayers comes to 12318.84. Man if our economy couldn't survive and prosper after stroking every hard working american taxpayer a check for 12318.84 then we should just give up now, for we have already failed. Like already said, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle is a thing of the past. Republican, democrap, hell there all in it together, some more than others. At least with a Replican in office I won't be taxed to death or worry about a nuke landing in my back yard. So you Democraps keep hugging your trees and praising god for the miracle he has bestowed upon us all while us left in the real world just say our prayers.Bucktrucker and CANNIBAL-MAN Thank this.
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oh so true thank you......once upon a time in america we were ok and glad to be middle class...you had a job,money a roof over your head a
familly,kids growing up to a future.....and today there is no middle class anymore,just the poor and those that are 1 day away from being destitute and homeless...having to explain to our children why we lost the house and the job, and that tomorrow is an unknown territory....why is it that
we, the wealthiest and most powerfull nation on the planet has people living in the streets and in cars? and children that go to bed hungry?
while the families of these corporate execs and politician maggots feed of the less fortunate?This is not what the founding fathers envisioned for this country, but we have let them get this far nad now we need to say..
no more, unless we are willing to get further fleeced by the con-artists.
this is just my opinion, but the truth is a hard pill to swallow. -
I don't completely disagree with you on many of your points but about a month after 9/11, weaponized anthrax was sent to two Democratic senators and several news outlets. Five Americans were killed and 17 wounded. Five years later, the perpetrator is still free. In fact, since that day, Muslims have killed at least 36 people in 27 separate acts of Jihad in the United States (by the standards that Muslim-American groups set for hate crimes)
3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course. 5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard. 7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people. 9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD 1 0 A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range. 9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one. 9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers. 10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot. 10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period. 10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team. 10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas. 10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot. 10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers. 8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a religious revival, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man. 12/2/2003 USA Chicago, IL 1 0 A Muslim doctor deliberately allows a Jewish patient to die from an easily treatable condition. 4/13/2004 USA Raleigh, NC 1 4 A Muslim man runs down five strangers with a car. 4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested. 6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim gunman in an unprovoked terror attack. 6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer. 7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American barges into a local Jewish center and shoots six women, one of whom dies. 10/6/2006 USA Louisville, KY 4 1 In an 'honor' attack, a Muslim man rapes and beats his estranged wife, leaving her for dead, then savagely murders their four children. 2/13/2007 USA Salt Lake City, UT 5 4 A Muslim immigrant goes on a shooting rampage at a mall, targeting people buying Valentine's Day cards at a gift shop and killing five. 1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle. 7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
Not that any of these attacks are as bad as 9/11 but nobody can say there hasn't been been ANY attacks on US soil since then. -
OK now nothing to see here citizen...move along now..
Stop fighting the natural order of things..If your lords.. The masters of capital decide to take a big ole craap on you, just smile and say thanks Sir!..If there generous they might let you wipe some of that ole poo off youself and onto some homless folk down the street or those pitiful suckers working there way into poverty..Oh wait that's probably most everyone...
No matter their's got to be some one below you on Satin's big ladder..Just you go roll the poo down on them...
But Never Ever! think you can push that stuff back up the pipeline..Thoughts like that get peopled hurt..Last edited: Jan 31, 2009
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What people are not realizing is that most of the bail out money is being printed...that means the value of the dollar is gonna drop like a rock again and infaltion is gonna almost double. The experts aren't saying this cause they don't want to cause a panic, but just watch it is gonna happen.
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It really all does not matter.They(goverment) aint gonna give the working man poor a dime...
We (the working man) will never see nothing..
You have to be part of there scheme of things.Like you have to be (special interest group) and a working truck driver is not a special interest group..
As far as i am concerened and the way i see it,the government created this mess because they are theives,con's and scum..lol,lol..
The truth is the goverment does not have the interest of the working man.Never did and never will...
It's all SMOKE AND MIRRORS.....TAKE A LOOK AT THIS 100% REALITY OF WHAT ARE ''CROOKED GOVERNMENT'' has done to the working people in this country....This is the work of the ''government legal extortion'' other known as the ''government mafia'' with there brother mafia ''wall street''
They have destroyed america and ran off with all the ''peoples money''..And they did it ''legally''..
THE GOVERNMENT AND POLITICIANS IS THE ONLY PROBLEM WE AS WORKING AMERICIANS HAVE.They are an orginazation no different from the mafia of years ago.The only difference is the ''government'' found ways to do it ''LEGALLY''..
What we need is a modern day ''BOSTON TEA PARTY''...lol
At first I thought this was funny...then I realized the awful truth of it.THIS IS OUR ''GOVERNMENT'' AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO US AMERICIANS FOR 100 YEARS NOW....WHEN DOES IT END?
Be sure to read all the way to the end!
Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.
Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.
Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.
Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.
Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries,
then his tears.
Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his A.Z.Z..
Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.
When he screams and hollers,
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.
Put these words
upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me to my doom..."
When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What in the heck happened? Can you spell "politicians!"
And I still have to "press 1" for English!?!?!?!?
I hope this goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!!!! YOU can help it get there!!!!
GO AHEAD - - - BE AN AMERICAN!!!!!!
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You are all "Guilty"
Point at the government, the rich, the poor, the democrats or republicans; point at the Jews, the Muslims, Blacks, Mexicans (legal or illegal); point everywhere and at everyone but yourselves.
Somebody had to do this "to" you because it happened to you and it is anybodys fault but your own.
It was Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush and now Obama... or maybe it was all of them for the conspiracy crowd?
So long as it wasn't your own fault?
A pile of lumber is worth roughly $10k, perhaps as much as 30k (fixtures included). Add to this 5k for a patch of dirt and sprinkle lightly with profit.
Your house is worth 40-50k but you paid 100-150k. Actually you didn't pay 150k, you borrowed 150k.
You agreed to pay 6-10% interest for 30 years.
Payments on the order of $1100.00 monthly, paying roughly $100 towards principal and $1000.00 towards profit for someone.
This was all fine with you, at the time.
You were a bit nervous but also exhilarated when you signed the loans and took possession of your castle. Many, if not all, with initial concerns; told themselves, Its a lot of money but Ill be able to sell this (used) place in 5 years for twice what I paid for it.
Some were so confident in this idea they bought houses they didnt even need so they could fix them up and resale them for a profit. They even coined a phrase, flip, for their scheme.
You all laughed at Grandpa for driving his 1972 Buick until the wheels fell off. He didnt really drive it that much per year, but the thing still had a couple of hundred thousand miles accrued on the odometer. He took it to a local shop for regular servicing and had put a transmission in it and maybe even a motor. Gee Gramps, when yagonna trade that junk off for a new car, like mine?
Your new car made you feel good. It was vindication, validation? Im an adult, I can afford this, I need this, I deserve this
Living beyond your means is quite a feat.
At first you needed a better job, more hours, more miles, or just more money. Then, if ever, it wasnt more money you needed. More money requires success, hard work, determination, a lot of sacrifice, and often an education.
Instead, you quit saving as much as you should and decided to start investing. Saving and investing ARE NOT synonymous.
Later you traded in health insurance for either none or else what could be considered catastrophic policies. These dont cover everything; they instead come with annual deductibles (500-5,000 dollars) but also lower premiums.
Credit cards; a convenience used instead of carrying cash allowed you to consolidate purchases and write only one check at the end of the month.
It turned from consolidating to extending purchasing power rather quickly when Christmas rolled around. Soon you were carrying a balance and before you knew it your limits were extended.
Holes were dug with good intentions of using tax returns to catch yourself back up but then you needed that money for either vacation or some other frivolity.
You kept right on juggling until something dropped; an illness, a broken leg, a job loss, a down turn in the economy.
Some may have to declare bankruptcy after having lost it all. Many more will have to simply grow up and realize they didnt really OWN very much and were instead only living a very good lie.
The stock market earns returns of 10% annually over the long term
Really???
And where do you suppose this extra 10% pops into existence from????
Trust me here; it really is only a piece of paper. It only has value because you think it does.
If youve saved 25k, (actual dollars saved or put into your 401k) and somebody sent you a notice in the mail saying your 25k was now worth 50K or even 75K and you left it sit there thinking and feeling all warm and fuzzy because you had 75k in the bank well my friend you should have pulled it out of the stock market and put it in the bank.
Then at least your thinking would be correct.
The stock market is and has always been a ponzified pyramid scheme.
For every winner there is a loser. There is no 10% from thin air unless the government starts printing, unaccounted for, money oh wait, I think they just did that didnt they?
Im sorry youve been working a few years out of high school and have nothing to show for it. I am even, more sorry, if youve been working 25 years out of high school and still have nothing to show for it.
In either event, neither case is my problem.
I find it rather hilarious that the argument is: Dont give it to the banks, instead, give it to me.
$2,500 or $6,000 or $10,000 per person or 50 million billion zillion to Wallstreet???
None of you have earned anything anymore than Wallstreet has.
Leave my tax money where I put it, with the government. Not for the common good but for the common defense.
Take your lickings, as youve earned and actually learn something here.
Get a job and quit buying crap at Walmart, its a little late for buyers remorse.
If you cant get a job then make your own, still quit buying crap at Walmart.
Quit banking, borrowing, credit carding into oblivion. Save your ###### money and prepare for the future. THE FUTURE THAT YOU ARE MAKING FOR YOURSELF!
I dont owe you squat, the Federal Reserve doesnt owe you squat.
I didnt spend your money and you certainly arent going to spend mine.
I didnt tell you to work for minimum wage or 30 cents per mile or try to convince you that you could keep living like you were making twice as much as you are or that it would all work out in the end.
If you are worried about the economy you apparently havent been taking care of business or life like you should.
Your Problem
Grow up!
IDIOTS
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