It’s a Landoll trailer, so no moving the axles and it’s a closed tandem.
Load is a forklift that weighs 42k and some change. My empty weight is 38k.
I think GA is like TN, where if you are running a overweight permit, they will allow you 46k on a set of tandems.
I’ll just get the permit. Like I said above, I’ll be making this exact same load down there and back 4 times in the next few months, and they will be spaced far enough apart that I’ll have to order a total of 8 permits.
We normally haul this particular forklift on our tri-axle lowboy trailer, in and around TN, where we have a 120k blanket. I was trying to haul this load on a lighter trailer and get down to 80k to run in GA. What I need is a light weight 35ton lowboy to haul this lift on, which I think I could get legal with.
There are other logistical problems with this move. The weights on the scale ticket are the forklift without the forks and counterweights. I’m already planning to haul the counterweights (30k total) on another load, but both forks weigh another 4,500#. If I’m going to get a permit, I’d be much better off to put the forks back on the forklift, as it’s a real pain to deal with the 4,500# forks, if they aren’t attached to the lift.
This load actually isn’t moving until 2 weeks from now. The Flying J is just a couple of miles from our yard, so I had one of my guys load it up and take it to get a weight. I wish he would have slid the 5th wheel and took a reweigh, but the mud flaps are going to have to be removed to slide the 5th wheel further forward.
Fudging weight
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by m16ty, Jul 18, 2018.
Page 3 of 4
-
-
Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds
Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.
-
Well if the permit is 30 bucks I'd just get the permit you'll wear 30 bucks off 4 extra tires too.
-
If the forklift weighs 42k (based on specs) and you can prove you weigh 38k empty, I don't think they'll bother you. Permit is always cheaper than an overweight ticket though. And states will gladly hand them out if you put up the cash. That's all they want.
-
Versa lift? For what it’s worth with a 48’ manac 35 Ton RGN I weighed 38k with a 22k pound condo sleeper fleet truck. So about a 16k pound trailer.
-
The lift is actually a FR-60/80 Hoist. It’s basically just like a Versa-lift 60/80.
-
This combo with 1/2 tank of fuel is 39,680. '02 9900i, 51' globe 55 ton hydraulic RNG. -
So apparently you have 4 forklifts going to GA. And there are additional loads for forks, counterweights and so on.
How much fuel by weight is inside one of those forklifts anyway? You can probably poach it down to 10 gallons and lighten it that way.
Playing the fuel game. Your tanks are not big enough or full enough at that cat weight to really take off fuel and roll legal through the scale. Maybe 1 notch on the 5th wheel to take the 120 off the trailer wheels. Or drive forklift just a smidgen on that trailer. 2 feet probably will do it. *If you have that much
Your knowledge of trailers in this kind of hauling is not my forte. HOWEVER, your writings indicate you know of a trailer that might scale legal with that forklift and the next three going to Georgia. Why not use what you know will take the weight legally? It is not always good to put more on a lighter trailer. (And I get to be a fraidy cat when steel mill plops a 24 foot coil 52000 onto my Ravens covered wagon which was in it's day pretty durn light.) so I have a little bit of experience with concentrated weight loads. (Never mind the seacan containers)
I remember scaling a 20 foot box on a triaxle chassis with a 60's mack. The particular cat scale ticket came out to 45000 on the drives 65000 on the trailer's three axles and god only knows how much on the steers. (Ive covered my eyes and did not look at that number)
There is no legalizing this load. I had a permit for 99K but there isnt anything to be done but to run it and eat the fines along the way. New Market Maryland wrote a little bit of this and that against the company. But they were probably fed up on sufficient big stuff not to be hungry for a big violate like me.
If it's only 30 dollars for a permit sufficiently hefty to haul the contents of fort knox to our dear neighbors in holanta... then I will pay that 30 dollars in a heart beat. It's cheaper than a overaxle or gross ticket which potentially could lead to other things like a stiff inspection etc.
Hold on to your securement always. Showing up somewhere without strap or chain is akin to a ##### in church. It's not done. Not without repercussions. -
I always figure 1lb to 1 1/2 lbs of fuel per mile. If I think I will be close.
-
Late to the party, but:
Move the 5th wheel up 2 notches. You'll be within the scale tolerance (usually 5%) on all axles and total weight. If you have an APU and its associated weight certificate, then you're golden as you can exempt the APU weight.
Also, don't add any more fuel than you already have. You'll get lighter as you burn it off. -
Pretty sure you can't permit a divisible load?
Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds
Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.
Page 3 of 4