New rules coming regarding HOURS?

LOL. There may not be more than three thousand people who really understand split sleeper.

 

Clearly very different from TL OTR. Maybe that local delivery driver shouldn't have to work 14 hour days, or even 11 hour days. The OTR guy on the other hand is just sitting in a seat all day. Totally different sort of job.

Some drivers certainly do work harder than others though. You want to deny that? It doesn't need to be harder anyway. Just different can be enough depending on what the difference is.

 

I still think all drivers have the ability to manage time. The 30 min rule to me doesn't make a difference. There is 30 min or better of down time each day. That can be logged in the flow of a day. Yes OOs should subject to the same regs because without them, there are many that overdue it out here on the road in the name of a few extra dollars. By your logic, if anybody should have exceptions, it's flatbed drivers. If they actually logged how they did it, they would potentially burn way more than 70 hrs, because they do more actual work outside of driving

 

You can't run hard at 62 mph? Why can't you? I drive 62 mph and can still get my miles for the week. The elog tells the real story. By time you park for the day, it's rare a driver averages 65 mph or better, especially running east of I-35. Then if you're running the mountains out west, that'll kill your mph too

 

I know I'm not....to be honest the 14 and 70 doesn't bother me. That's plenty of time to work. 14 hrs in a day is plenty to work. 70 hrs a week is plenty to work. A lot of truckers just have bad habits....they can't sit in the truck stop and talk for hrs anymore. There will be no stopping to fool around with that sexy blond no more. No leaving the house at 7 pm or later Sunday night, driving all night, and getting another load and running all day with no sleep. Shame on people for cutting out some of these bad decisions hahahaha

 

Same thought here. Increased activity means increase probability of accidents.

 

But legally flatbedders should be logging that time. The fact that elogs don't preclude certain types of HOS cheating should lead one to ask why that is so and what should be done. Wouldn't it be better to have accurate time logged and reasonable time allowances for that type of job built into the rules? Wouldn't it be better if no cheating were necessary and the job could still get done?

I'm not sure I know what you mean by logging the 30 minute break in the flow of a day. You are supposed to actually be off duty for thirty minutes. And that time you spend sitting at a dock may or may not be eligible to count as your break, depending on who you ask.

As for overdoing it, I'm not saying don't have any rules. I'm saying have rules that fit the job. I do OTR dry van. When I've had ten hours off and I've had plenty of sleep, then I'm ready to go. The 70 hour rule does not make me safer. It just makes me poorer.

 

I was talking somewhat facetiously, or sarcastic.

We ran 63 mph truck as a team and specialized in LA California to Avenel NJ in about 65 hours and back to LA in about 66 or so hours in 6 days and change. Used part of the 7th day to build back hours midnight and repeated the trip.

It's a different world these governed trucks, always has been since my first one got casterated about 1995. That one was capable of pulling power until about 1850, top end red line at 2150 and fuel pump quit pulling fuel at 116+ mph. She usually topped out at 132 or so max on certain grades that have the run out to do it safely prior to the next ridge.

When she got casterated, they put her on 60 limit. The problem became redline at 1350 in top gear and you were sawing the top two gears back and forth with a rockwell 9. The next gear down maxed at 2150 close to the speed you need to be at on the high way wile everyone blow the doors off and gave me radio abuse then the top gear did not have any balls off torque to stay there.

I quit a week later.

My next employer DM Bowman when they sent me into regional with van in the south, the Governor was set at 55. That was nothing but a house of fear as everyone blazed by at 70 on fancy gap. I quit. By then everyone had governed trucks. It was disgusting in those days. The loss of being able to put that foot down and have that engine reach down and get up and go.

 

Ahh ok..... sometimes it's hard to pickup the sarcasm in text, but I totally understand

 

So you're saying you can't make a decent living in 70 hrs weekly as an owner operator?