Oklahoma CDL nightmare...

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by Mossyoak22, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. x1Heavy

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    Shortage I clean forgot, Slowpoke KW is correct.

    Why is there a shortage? Two reasons.

    The COMPANY WONT PAY a dollar a mile or equivalent of say 85,000 per annum for a single trucker or 160,000 for a team of two. (Our Revenue with FFE was around half a million in 2001 based on a 91000 dollar fuel burn) Our gross for both of us was 67000. About 33K each. Or half minimum wage or less. Or more precisely 306 working days with a 18 wheeler away from our home trying to solve FFE's problems among other problems that year. Before tax. Savings is what pulled us through. Without it we would have been negative.

    Too many newbies are removed from the industry for either preventable or actual positive drug tests now that some states legalized Pot use which is schedule one and not lawful in Federal Trucking anywhere. It's a example of problems confronting the industry. Even the workforce retail around here are having trouble finding non medicated people like myself. I can work but no one will hire because I have narcotics legally in me 24/7 So.. Im out to pasture something about 20 years ahead of time, not by choice.

    Try to ignore the hyping of shortage or other negative stuff. Take care of yourself and I think you will be awesome at whatever you do in life. I think pretty certain you will be the next generation to carry the family business to your children someday should they take to it.
     
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  3. Mossyoak22

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  4. brian991219

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    You can go to another state to take your CDL skills and road test, so if Oklahoma can't get you an appointment in a timely manner look at Texas or another nearby state. Also, maybe look for a state that uses third party examiners, they usually have plenty of opening for test dates and most even have a truck they will rent you for the test. Sure it will cost you a few hundred dollars, pass or fail, but it gets you tested and on the road.

    The worst thing you can do is have an experienced driver train you for the CDL exam. They will teach you all sorts of "secrets" and "short cuts" that will result in you failing your CDL exam, happens all the time. I am a former CDL examiner in Pennsylvania and the worst drivers I had take exams were either taught by daddy or grandpa, or had been drivers and lost their CDL for some reason. Full of real world experience, and capable of driving, but not capable of doing the test as the state requires.

    Bottom line, the examiner can't pass you unless you do it exactly like the book says period. They won't take the chance that you are not some auditor that is there to test their integrity or ability to conduct the exam as required, it happens often as a means of keeping them honest.
     
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  5. Mossyoak22

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    X1heavy thanks man!
     
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    Brian I'm trying to figure out how to reply to people without having to list their entire comment etc.

    Yeah i know the test is completely different than normal driving.. I guess I didn't make it clear enough in my horribly written original post lol. I'm not concerned about the driving part of the test. I also passed the pre trip, in cab, and air brake test with only 1 missed item so nearly a perfect score the second time I took it. The backing is the only thing I have issues with and if Oklahoma wasn't backed up on testing I wouldn't be worried... It's like really bad right now.. You call just to find out when their schedule is released and you literally wait on the phone for 5 hours just to talk to someone for 30 seconds....

    Other people told me you had to become a resident of the other state before you could take a DPS examination there for license CDL etc. Also even if I could go to Texas to take my test that there would be another problem I would be getting into a truck that I had never seen or driven before and I would have to redo the entire test there but I guess if I could just go back the next day if I fail there do a walk in and it would probably be worth it.
     
  7. brian991219

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    @Mossyoak22 to reply directly to someone without the quote simply put the @ symbol in front of their username, as I did in this post. It will tag them so you are sure they read your reply.

    Since 2015 the FMCSA has directed states to accept commercial learners permits (CLP) from other states for road skills testing. You must obtain your permit and take the knowledge test in your home state, but the skills can be done anywhere. You then go back to your home state for the hard copy of your CDL.

    Find a "CDL in a day" type school, they will usually rent you the truck by the hour, provide a driver to ride with you while you become familiar with it, then take you to the test site -or better yet, if they are a CDL third party tester they will then administer the test. We have a few places like that here in Pennsylvania. If you came to the Scranton area with $500 and a day to kill you could go to a third party tester, practice in their truck and take your exam.
     
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  8. Mossyoak22

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    @brian991219

    Yeah most of those "Same day CDLs" sound just like the place I used its just a rental company right next door to the DPS office and there is a big gravel lot out back where the trucks are and where they do the backing test etc. Oklahoma DPS said in a article in 2016 that I found that they would be allowing 10 third party testers, but I haven't found any online and I've never heard of any here.. Like I said this state is a joke... I'm gonna try to find some in Texas and ask them if I come down and take it and fail if I can rent a hotel and come back the next day to retake etc.. At this point I would pay like $5,000 if I could just buy my CDL..
     
  9. Cam Roberts

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    How long is rental trailer? 48ft? Even so, you shouldn’t have to do any pull-ups. Why are you renting trucks from the examiner if you family all has trucks? Use the one you are most familiar with
     
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  10. Mossyoak22

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    Cam Roberts

    The last time a guy I saw tried to use a family truck. They received about $1,500 in tickets... This was a 2014 peterbilt all factory no deletes and they still found stuff wrong with it... I spoke to a lady in Texas at a school and she said that's how Oklahoma is. She said Texas isn't as picky etc. I just spoke to a place in Kansas City that will let me test at their school which is third party for $450. They will also let me drive the truck and practice backing prior to the test. The trailer you rent here in Oklahoma is a very small flatbed and it gets away from you like a boat trailer and the lot has potholes so it kept making the trailer turn.... I think it's also nerves since I knew if I failed I would have to wait like 2.5 months to re-test.... The place in Kansas city has no wait list and it's a 48' trailer so it's heavier and more like what I'm used to backing.

    Also Oklahoma as I suspected doesn't have 3rd party testers....
     
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  11. Cam Roberts

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    Oh ok. That’s crazy
     
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