Payroll and BOL question.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Oldironfan, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. moloko

    moloko Road Train Member

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    I pretty much think the "hard copy or no money" game is a ruse to screw you out of your pay. The driver is caught in an endless cycle of auditing their own payroll logs. Whenever the company deliberately does not pay their drivers for some "paperwork policy violation," they are stealing from their employees. Period. They knew how much the load cost. They knew you pulled the load and delivered the load. They have no basis to deny you your earnings, except to hope that they can get out of paying by saying, "but the driver didn't do this and that!" No, they knew that load was delivered and they probably have a copy of the BOL from both the shipper and receiver. This is just an ambiguity to systematically screw a few drivers out of their pay here and there, all of the time. And they end up saving like tens of thousands of dollars in the long run through this systematic wage theft. this is 2018, nobody needs a piece of paper in hand these days.
     
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  3. mover man

    mover man Road Train Member

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    Because in order to be paid, they require the bills to be in thier office. So driver can pay and get them there asap. Use post office mail box, get paid in 2 weeks. Or hold on and turn I. When he gets back to office. I understand if driver is not paid percentage, why he is paying to over night them. I just dont understand why he has to.
     
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  4. 06driver

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    I do GAF. I am not paying to get my payroll entered.Plain and #### simple. If they want their bills that fast they can pay all the charges. If they do not have enough money to make payroll without it they are one tank full from ####ing the driver over when they go tits up anyways.

    I hear about all these BS "charges" the driver pays. Com check fees, withdrawal fees, per diem fees, fed ex fees and I have to wonder how ####ed up of a record they have to have to put up with a BS company like that. And further do we even want them on public roads when clearly they stuck at making good decisions.
     
  5. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    Finding a FedEx drop is not always easy or accessible, or able to make drop by last pick up.
    It's a pain.
    I think this will be my last OTR gig, I'm trying to go local.
     
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  6. 06driver

    06driver Road Train Member

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    Just so you know 99.o99999% of good companies don't have bs like that.
     
  7. mover man

    mover man Road Train Member

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    Well it is nice that you GAF. I just keep thinking, good thing you dont work where the op does.
    Cause at end of the day. It's driver take it or leave it. At that point one must make a decision.
    Me I dont care if I get paid once a month. So I could wait till I got back to or thru the office. Or use the good old fashioned post office.
    Other driver might not be in same financial position and needs a check right away every week.

    But my company use's the yellow over night box at truck stop. So it' not really a concern
     
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  8. DLJ

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    i request the drivers to send bol through email , 2 out of 10 brokers requires originals, usually our factoring notify us , but once they request it we have already send copies to them and we just request originals sometime from the driver if they are on road
     
  9. x1Heavy

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    That 13 dollars is COMPANY's BILL, NOT yourn. OR you get reimbursed for all of those 13 dollars you ever sent. It's a parasite.

    Stop paying 13 dollars. Take the physical BOL's the Original, Make Physical Good Quality copies, in color if need be at a library etc with a scanner or drive a small scanner with a Inverter to laptop inside your truck onto thumb drive as Jpeg and print off at any library computer.

    Keep the copies for yourself DIVIDED by trip number assigned by dispatch, and under which you are paid for that specific load with a paper clip into a lined journal book 8 inches by 14 inches. The page you paper clip your copies should contain all information given to you by Dispatch prior to pickup and then your actual mileage odo notes, time picked up time arrived etc and any problems or OSD etc affecting that load. Plus any tolls, dates and times of those tolls and expenses related to that run.

    That way when you fail to be paid, you present that massive journal with the actual copies in paper form followed by the exact information as it happened with that load you will be paid by your DM on demand.

    My post is pretty dense, I know. And involves some additional desk time inside your sleeper on each load. But it is so worth it. FFE paid us approximately 4500 dollars total in 10 months when these loads we had were not paid when expected and we had to present these unpaid loads with evidence etc to DM and demand a comcheck to settle and be even with company then. Otherwise those loads we would have never been paid due to snafu in HR, Payroll, Billing etc. etc etc.

    Send the originals some way to your company probably having to go back to headquarters and physically turning them in. That requires savings to make it happen. or find a method at which your company WILL already cover the document mailing costs themselves where are you have to do is put it into say a trip pack yellow evenlope and drop it off.

    If your company gets stubborn like goat and refuses to relieve you of forking over 13 dollars so be it, find another employer.
     
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  10. mover man

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    Maybe the company doesnt have a REAL basis not to pay. But the driver has the responsibility to get the paper work in to the office, in some manner or form. Without that the company cant get paid. Then NO ONE gets paid.
    Now I agree the company should accept a pdf or other electronic copy. Or provide driver with the means to get it in. A driver having to pay yo over night is unacceptable. But it's up to the driver to agree and accept when they are hired on.
     
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  11. starmac

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    I know things have changed, but when I had drivers running all over the country, I paid percentage, but that really does not matter.
    I did require them to send in the bills, and legal logs to be paid. If I didn't require the logs before payday, it was just too easy for them to go to the back of the mind.
    Now, when they left the yard they had a hand full of prestamped priority mail envelopes to send them in, nothing to do with the truck, or billing or any company expenses of any kind ever came out of their pocket.
    They also had 500 bucks of company cash in their pocket, to be used for anything truck related, just keep the reciepts and we got even when they hit the yard, They rarely needed much of this, and could and did use some of it for personal expenses from time to time, and we just evened up at the yard.
    I was small and most of my drivers were well known, and we never had any trouble with this program, it would not work for may outfits.
     
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