Am I a total tool bag?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by otterinthewater, Oct 12, 2018.

Am I total tool bag?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

    10 vote(s)
    18.5%
  3. Yes, but not because of any of these

    8 vote(s)
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  4. Seriously dude stop thinking.

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  1. otterinthewater

    otterinthewater Road Train Member

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    At 2am I walk into a truck stop after my 10. I need coffee. This kid comes up to me, he’s maybe 25-30. He looks like a kid who listened to Eminem a decade or more ago. He says “I heard you talking to another driver about conditions over vail pass, and you look like you’ve been driving a long time”. Guess it’s my work pants, flannel, steel toed shoes and I’m clean shaven.

    Anyway I say ok?

    He then asks me if he can follow me over the pass in his mega truck. He’s never driven in snow and doesn’t know how to chain. He’s already been sitting for +30 hours and he says his DM is getting pissed and he doesn’t want to get fired.

    I’m taken off guard. My first actual thought was “what would @Ridgeline or @UturnGirl do?”

    So I tell him straight up I’m new as well and, No I don’t want you following me. Better you getting fired than getting yourself or someone else killed. I love my son and wife and don’t need to chance that. I told him call his DM tell him it isn’t safe, and that conditions should better later in the day.
    I felt like a dick. You know trucking brotherhood and all. I blame HOS. If I had more time I would’ve done more than just tell him about TTR and chaining vids.

    Then this happened... the flatbedder breaks down on a fairly steep uphill that’s only one lane due to bridge construction. The truck in front of me stops. This is on the west bound I-70 about 10-15 miles from the I-15. Vail was a nightmare for me (karma?) waaay worse than yesterday. It was basically 25-40mph the whole way from Silver Plume all the way down. So I’m running behind and I deliver in LA tomorrow. After about 10 minutes (I’ve got 45 minutes left on my clock with 32 miles to go. I lay on the air horn. I’ve got to get rolling. The guy helping needs to move. He complies and rolls off. I roll up to the flatbedder and ask if me needs anything and offer him water or whatever else I have but I’ve got to go. I feel like a dick, but #### HOS I don’t want to be in violation.

    I feel bad for both dick moves. Worse for the flatbedder. It was obviously his truck and a tow from there is not going to be cheap.


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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    You are nice.

    REALLY REALLY NICE. Compassionate and so on. TOO nice. You follow me?

    It is fortunate you told that little pipsqueak to buzz off. If HE is in the mountain truckstop wanting lessons in driving following you, I tell him he aint following ME or nobody. SORRY. You drive, you learn by doing. Man up. Wipe your sniffling. Get going yer late.

    Second problem.

    How in tarnation does Pipsqueak know he HEARD YOU SPECIFICALLY from the tower of babel that is a CB around a truckstop from inside a freaking Dining hall, arcade, or payphone area etc? Tell me that. HA. He heard ####. Maybe he cold read you as a tool. Too nice to be smart about anything and fall for him. HA...

    At least you told him off.... Don't follow me etc.

    Third problem.

    That pipsqueak's job status with Mad Mad DM is HIS PROBLEM. NOT YOURN. What do you give a ####? So sad, he might get fired AWW POOR THING... //sarcasm. He is big boy now, drive a big truck toy that far up the hill and maybe get fired because DM says go and he does not have the balls to say no properly. He needs a lesson in that.

    Forth Problem.

    In my later days of trucking I do not talk to people inside truckstops, fuel lines or no where. HOWDY... CAN YOU HELP ME WITH (insert BS Sob story....)


    Me: NO. Beat it. I don't have anything for you and even less time... git.

    And what develops from there will depend on what the Mr Sob Story wants to do about that little flat rejection.

    The problem is this.

    I'm nice. Im too nice. I cry myself to sleep that night because I ripped Mr Sob Story. But ###### if anyone going to see me doing that. Eff it.

    Follow me?

    I say this. There has been times once in a great eon and passage of time in this life someone is in need of a LITTLE help.

    If I STOPPED like I did to HELP when I did, surely the Lord shall laugh in his Joyful acclamation that person finally got help. But I would not hear about that for a long time anyhow. /slight sarcasm. But I am happy that one DID get a little help NOW and THEN. Its seriously rare.
     
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  4. otterinthewater

    otterinthewater Road Train Member

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    I can follow you.

    Hahaha.

    He heard me in line talking to another driver. That’s how he knew I’d been over the top the day before.

    I’ve already cut down on the chat at the TS. What made me feel like a dick wasn’t saying no. It was that I really didn’t try. Being a new driver I rely on the advice of seasoned vets on this site. It’s not always good advice but there’s pearls of wisdom that only experience teaches. There’s a few vets on here that I can’t really stand. Just personality things or I’m from California, but when they start talking about things I shut up and listen. And @UturnGirl she’s such a character that I have to meet her someday. I can see her having me LOLing while she tells me so sweetly “to go hell”. You x1 you write novels. Very interesting and informative, but I have to be prepared for your posts.

    Anyway thanks for the response.
     
  5. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    You are welcome.

    People are difficult in the truckstop. And it's unfortunate. I cannot hardly get into say Highland Rest Area in South Chicago Toll Road without 50 people stopping me for money, gas, more money, or change a diaper on the baby, help make a call on my card and so on before I reach the doors. Which is a problem of pickpockets, predators and so on. You think with the way they seem to put on airs and show that I am some how the second coming to rescue them from all the crap in their sorry lives in that filthy rest stop... Why did I ever stop?

    And you wonder why I no longer stop in places like that. I cannot hardly turn around in a people place where I am seen as a target to be taken advantage of in some way.

    Take care of yourself. You are a Daddy to your family. They come first. Everyone else is on their own.

    Good luck.

    By the way I apologize sometimes for my novels. It's really hard to convert the situation from one language to another. English is pretty good but it's.. inadequate sometimes.

    One last thing. It's ok to feel like a dick sometimes. If you did not, you aint human. Follow me?
     
  6. Clyde07

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    I probably would have let him follow me, after signing a disclaimer that released me from any liability should he have trouble.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I would have so much fun with that. Betting he aint got what it takes to run with me. But.. it's not nice. I don't think. he he he. I do love me a good challenge.
     
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  8. J Rich

    J Rich Medium Load Member

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    You maybe a tool! Just not the whole tool bag.
    I'm kidding.

    I don't know that area of the Country. I do know that I hate following or being followed. Even if the person is a fellow company driver. I can't imagine having someone I have never met, from a different company, skills unknown, over some sketchy mountain or pass following me.


    As for the flatbed. You did more than most would have, and you had to go.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I have not worked on the flatbed problem. But I guess if you gotta go, you gotta go.

    Gotta go, gotta go. That durn ELD. tick tock.
     
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  10. Jwhis

    Jwhis Heavy Load Member

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    Voted before reading
     
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  11. MBAngel

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    No good deed goes unpunished. Sometimes if you stop and help, you're only opening a barrel of monkeys. Telling him where to get good chaining vids is a help. They'll also tell you to go slow and don't rush. But if he follows you and runs into your rear end, then you'll be the one stuck on the side of the road with him. If his company wants his noob butt to attempt that hill in the snow for the first time, then he's either working for a bad company, or should just get up some nerve and do it.
    Sorry about the flatbed guy too, but it's not like you can tow him down the hill, and this is part of what happens as an owner operator. All we can do is make sure they got water, food and won't freeze to death, and then we gotta keep on with our own lives. If a tool in your kit or a spare part would help him, that's one thing, but it's not like you can sit with him til the tow truck comes.
     
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