Hours of service questions and answers

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. The Breeze

    The Breeze Light Load Member

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    ^^^^ I think I figured out my mistake here. This little logging utility was right after all but I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.

    So, if I log like so:

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    Can I begin my next 14hr block at 11:15?
     
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  3. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Actually... no. The 8-hour break of the split must be done on line 2 in the sleeper. As logged, you'd have to stay off duty until 0200 the next day when your 14-hour clock would resume. If the 8-hour break was on line 2, then yes, it would be legal to start it at 1115. Keep in mind that in this example the 2-hour break is far enough back that you'd have to take another 2-hour break at 0115 to remain legal.
     
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  4. fx4wannabe

    fx4wannabe Light Load Member

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    I had a question about this. I have been doing it for a week or too and it has been helping me a lot with this slow freight. My question is can you keep split breaking day after day as without ever taking a 10hr? I had a couple days I logged like this: came off a fresh 10 and drove 4, took 2 getting loaded. Drove 5 more and took my 8. then I drove 5.5 and took my 2 getting loaded again and drove 3. Then I took my 8 getting loaded and I don't remember past that. As long as it kept working out I could just keep running like that forever right?
     
  5. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Why would he need to take "another" 2 hour break? The 2 hour break would work with the 8 hour break he had.

    Had it been in the sleeper (only mistake here I see) you would count over 22 hours from 11:15 am. So that would be 9:15 am the following day is when his 14 hour would be up. He could not drive more than 11 hours from 11:15 am to 9:15 am, he already used 4.75 so he would only have 6.75 hours to drive from 12:00 am to 9:15 am.

    Remeber if you are coming off your 8 hour break go to the 8 or 10 hour break and count over 22 hours. That's when your 14 hour ends. The driving time in between the 8 & 2 minus 11= how many hours you have available to drive.
    Your original 14 hour ended at 5:30 pm. You did not drive past 5:30 pm and you did not drive over 11 hours. You can take an 8 hour SLEEPER break instead of 10.

    The 8 & 2 hour break always clears out the working time prior to the first break. So once you completed the 8 hour break it cleared all working time from 3:30 am to 9:15 am that day (day 1)
     
  6. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Nothing is wrong with your 2 day split log. ITS PERFECTLY DONE! If it's legal that is
     
  7. The Breeze

    The Breeze Light Load Member

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    THANKS LOGS!!!! That's from a little logging program I've been fiddling with.

    I think I get it now however, I guess if I split on day one I'll have to keep on splitting until I take another full 10hr break. And that would actually make things less productive I reckon... it only seems worth doing if I know that the day after I'll only have a few hours of driving.

    Thanks for the help:biggrin_25525:
     
  8. Mike_MD

    Mike_MD Medium Load Member

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    See below.

    Be safe.
     
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  9. Mike_MD

    Mike_MD Medium Load Member

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    On day two at 12:00 PM (noon) you have 16 hours on-duty (2 hours SB + 5.5 driving + .25 on-duty + 8.25 driving.) The two hours then move the 14 hour clock up to 3:30 AM on day two.

    IOW, the eight hours does not count toward the 14; however, the 2 hour break does.

    Be safe.
     
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  10. The Breeze

    The Breeze Light Load Member

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    ^^^^ So was it right?

    Would it be a good rule of thumb to just say that I can't have more than 13.75 hours of driving time within any 24 window?

    Nope. Just taking this little logging program for a test spin and thought it could have been wrong. It's been spot on so far, it's just helping me explore and understand this issue more. I was still scratching my head at that point. I'm learning to trust technology but not depend on it fully ;-)
     
  11. Mike_MD

    Mike_MD Medium Load Member

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    It is safe to say you cannot have more than 11 hours of driving time without a 10 hour break or an appropriate 8 Sleeper Berth + 2 hour break for a split break.

    Be safe.
     
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