What is the purpose?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Coloradoman, Nov 18, 2018.

  1. Coloradoman

    Coloradoman Light Load Member

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    Lots of research. I'm not 100% sure where I would run the most yet. Colorado dont seem to have much freight for heavy and oversize. Right now I just run flat where ever the money takes me. Just starting out on my own, well under someone's authority for now. But trying to learn the o/o ropes before jumping into something. I'll have a few years of research, I'm sure it changes every year.
     
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  3. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Colorado don't have much freight at all unless you have connections for anything that might pay to be hauled.

    The western region is tricky. For flats
     
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  4. Coloradoman

    Coloradoman Light Load Member

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    Yeah lol. I did a couple of short runs Tuesday, but havnt found anything worth a #### yet lol.
     
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  5. TripleSix

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    Okay, first step is to learn on what you already have. You have to know your rig before you can max it out.
    1. What are your axle spacings? Measure out your axles, hub to hub to hub, and write these measurements down and keep them in your permit book.
    2. Find the center of the trailer to load. Get your 100ft measuring tape and measure out from the kingpin to the center of your trailer axles. Take this measurement and divide it in half. Measure this distance from the kingpin and mark.
    3. Scale your truck empty. You're 33k empty, but if you were going to put a 58k piece on the trailer, you would have to load it to where the drive axles and the trailer axles are as close to the same weight as possible.

    Now, try loading. Next time you get a coil, try to figure out through math, where to place that coil to where your drive axles and the trailer axles are identical. With a 5 axle, plan on staying at 94000 lbs and less, unless your steering/tires are rated for 20k on the steer. But to load 94k evenly, you're going to have to know what you are doing.

    Luck in battle.
     
  6. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    Once you start getting into 3 axle trailers, you won't be doing many legal loads. The setup just starts getting too heavy to haul 80k loads. It's not like you can add a 3rd axle to your trailer, haul mostly 80k loads, but have the extra axle to get a heavy load every now and then.

    For instance, our 4 axle W9 coupled with our 3 axle 55 ton Talbert, weighs 46K empty. That means I can only haul 36K before permits. If I want to haul legal loads, I'll have to compete with other people that can haul 40k+. So with that setup, I can't haul hardly anything without being overweight.
     
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  7. Hurst

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    Agreed,.. coming into this post late but here goes.

    Starting out you just want a well rounded general purpose trailer. Then later after you gain experience and maybe find something that turns into a regular gig,.. then and only then would I buy a trailer specifically for that purpose.

    For the most part,.. a modest 53ft step with a ramp/leveler kit will cover just about everything your going to do and will not break your bank account purchasing it. Plenty of good used trailers to get you started. Or go new if you can afford it. I would try not to over extend yourself until you know how to keep the money coming in to afford it.

    Hurst
     
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  8. Dirty Britches

    Dirty Britches Light Load Member

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    That’s not true! Ne will allow 60 on a tri 40 on a tandem an 20 on a single. You must mean without a permit.
     
  9. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    I’m talking about their rules for non-interstate routes without a permit and their rules for the over 80k on interstate annual permit. They still max out at 94k last I checked. And they figure their 5 axle bridge funky where you can haul more weight with a regular tractor and three axle trailer than you can with a 4 axle truck pulling a spread axle trailer.
     
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  10. Dirty Britches

    Dirty Britches Light Load Member

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    Gotcha! I know a single trip permit they will give you more, but they weigh each axle not the axle group. So you best not try to fudge
     
  11. Dirty Britches

    Dirty Britches Light Load Member

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    Az gets picky about axle spacing. They won’t give you full weight on a 54” spacing. You have to have 60”
     
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