Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. Caesar

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    Real trucking.........

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    I don't wanna get the boot so I'm staying out of this one. I'd rather bash my head repeatedly into a wall than listen to this Caesar salad guy
     
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    no need to log sleeper berth or off duty in europe. officers take chocolate bars as bribes
     
  6. Caesar

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    First of all, fuel consumption is going down with cars and trucks. If you are doing it by percentages, you can never reach zero. Keep in mind that fleet owners keep track of the fuel consumption. If the fuel consumption is 7% less, then that is a cost reduction of thousands of Euro per truck, not something to ignore if you have a fleet of trucks. If the reduction can not be achieved, the trucking company will complain, I can assure you. With aircraft engines, airlines are complaining about 15 to much fule consumption.
    It's all very well, but if you look at the video I posted about the DAF XF 530, you can see on the rev counter that the engine was running at 900 rpm. Obviously, you can't just can't take the same engine, and let it run at 200 rpm less. That trucks was using the MX-13 390,both less powefull versions, the MX-13 315 and 355 reach their maximum torque (2300 / 2350 Nm) at 900 rpm. The MX=13 390 as the same amount pof torque at 900 rpm, but reaches it maximum torque of 2600Nm at 1000 rpm. With the MX-13 390 the torque curve stays flat to 1460 rpm.
    Sorry, that did not occur to me.
    Which engine, 12 or 16 speed gearbox, which program did they use?
    I read 99% somewhere, but ok.
    Sorry, but I can't agree with you. US truck manufacturers nver produced their own gearboxes, and it the past they didn't even produce their own engines. In Europe, many car manufacturers use gearboxes made by ZF or Getrag. MAN didn't use their own gearboxes as fas as I know. The odd thing is that MAN has a gearbox manufacturing branch, Renk, That company produces all kind of gear systems, very big ones for ships etc. But they also produce gearboxes for tanks. Somehow, MAN never asked Renk to produce gearboxes for their trucks.
    In the UK, DAF has a market share of over 30%. That is twice as much as number two, MB. There they sell quite a number of construction trucks. In the Netherlands, Ginaf is using DAF trucks as base for their own, much heavier trucks. For some reason, DAF isn't building very heavy trucks, like very heavy tractors or 50 tonne tippers.
     
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  7. Caesar

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    Sure, German, Dutch, Belgian, French officers can be bribed with chocolate bars.
     
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    Doesn’t look like NL to me..........

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    P.S. more the 15cm of snow today ......
     
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    How about this?

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    Some years we have no snow, other years a bit more.
     
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  11. Caesar

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    One of our cobblestone roads, with an aqueduct:

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    See that rail road bridge? It was build next to the road. Then, in one weekend, the old railway bridge was demolished, the new 255 metre (840 feet) long 15,000 tonne (33,070,000 lbs) bridge was driven to its place on trailers, the rail road was connected again, and the express way was fixed again.
     
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