logbook/ weighstations/ med card

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  1. bizrhino

    bizrhino Bobtail Member

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    hello, i have a few questions hoping someone could answer for me! my uncle owns a masonary company and asked me if i could drive down a truck and trailer for him. the truck is an f350 dually with a dump bed on the back. the truck has no stickers or logos on it but the trailer does. i know it’s above 10,000 and below 26,000. just curious on if i’m going to have to stop at weigh station, carry a log book, or have a medical card on this one time trip. it would be driving from minnesota to florida.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Compensation is not addressed by FMCSA, so it doesn't matter if you are doing it for free or not.
    So, are you sure the GCVWR is less than 26k? Not the actual weight, but the rating combined.

    If it's more, you will need CDL A, logs, weigh stations, insurance, tags, etc. No different than if you were picking up a load and delivering it.
    If it's less, the only thing you skip is the CDL A requirement. Still need med card, logs, weigh stations, insurance, tags, etc.
    Some of the paperwork you can get temp tags, and temp insurance for the move if there is no freight on board.
    Most of the weigh stations you will have to stop at, it really depends on the state. Most go on weight ratings and don't even care if it's a CMV or not. Here is a list, just make note of which states are needed and go in as required. https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/weigh-stations/
    Also, I'm sure some here will say to simply put "Not for Hire" on and roll. There is no legal basis for that sign, it means nothing.
     
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    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    To legally operate that vehicle you will need a Medical card. For that trip yes you will have to log. I would advise entering the scales. Be careful though with that trailer. I would also advise making sure you have all your permits in order.
     
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  6. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Nope. The GCVWR has to be 26k plus to need a Class A.
    Here is a flowchart from the OK DMV
    Oklahoma Highway Patrol Troop S - Commercial Driver
    There are other states OR, KS, Oh, FMCSA, to name the first few hits on google.
    Heck, you can be legal running a 12,000lb truck and a 14,000lb trailer and not even need a CDL at all.
     
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  8. ZVar

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    Says it right there in your screen grab. You need 26k gcvwr and trailer vwr of 10k.
     
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    Alright. I apparently misunderstood something along the line somewhere here.

    I guess I’ve learned something tonight.

    I’ve taken that to mean that if the total combination is over 26k, OR the trailer is over 10k, you’re in class A territory...? Shrug.
     
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    If that trailer is the typical trailer used to haul a backhoe it's going to be ok empty. However if your hauling equipment in it I would be VERY careful.
     
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  11. Dan.S

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    It’s based upon the GVWR, not actual weight though, correct?
     
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