Dual logbook question

Its called knowing your limits and knowing when you need to pull over and sleep, if you get tired amd have to pull down a little gravel road in the middle of nowhere go ahead. Killing somebody because you fell asleep at the wheel should be treated the same no matter what your logs say, it's stupid and reckless and should make you unhireable in the industry.

 

Lol well I’m pretty sure it’s gonna make ya inhireable but ain’t no way it’s ever going to be treated the same by the court as a guy who willfully breaks the law and puts himself at GPS coordinates where he wouldn’t otherwise have been had he been following the law.

Notice has been served. If you’re over HOS and cause a fatal accident.....asleep or awake........ you’re going to prison

 

Here are three after a quick Google search.
Driver That Killed Taylor University Students Sentenced to Prison
Truck driver in fatal Portage County crash sentenced to five years in prison
Sleeping semi driver in Phoenix gets jail in fatal crash

That was a 5 minute search, I'm sure there are tons more. It took that long as most links I found were generic lawyer website. I only gave you the articles that had name and dates.

As for Roper, he got lucky. He should be in jail by any objective measure. HOS isn't the only law out there. He did, in fact, commit vehicular manslaughter.

 

Just think about how stupid the average person is and realize that half the world is dumber than they are.

 

That's putting hos laws over human lives, there's no other way to read that, and that's not a good thing, there's been multiple times I've sat in lines waiting for 10 hours all day long to load, I would've been "legal" to run for 11 hours but didn't because I did what any remotely responsible person does and parked because I was tired. There's been I don't know how many other times I've sat in line for 8 hours and only run a couple hours of what I could have because I was tired. Screw hos, if you're wide awake and can safely drive you should be allowed to, if you're tired stop and sleep, it is that simple.

 

The really interesting part of that is most of dumber ones either have a degree or are in the process of getting one and believe that makes them intelligent. The dumbest drivers I've personally seen are in college towns with out of state plates.

 

You don’t have to fall asleep. Just get in a fatal wreck over hours. The courts are speaking loud and clear but I’m sure you can tell the judge screw this and you’ll be fine. It’s your life man

 

Frankly, I expect a better effort from you. I really don’t have time to fact check your info. First one failed calls the others into question. I stand by my statement.

“Investigators said Spencer had fallen asleep at the wheel after he had driven at least nine hours more than allowed under federal rules.”

 

Don't know where you got that quote. The full text of the first link...
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A Detroit-area truck driver will spend four years in prison for causing a crash that killed five people from Indiana's Taylor University.

An Indiana judge sentenced Robert Spencer to eight years total but suspended four of them, which would be served on probation. He could've faced up to 24 years in prison.

The judge also ordered him to pay a $5,000 fine and revoked his commercial driver's license.

Spencer was accused of falling asleep on Interstate 69 shortly before his tractor-trailer hit the university van in April 2006.

The case drew additional national attention after the county coroner misidentified one of the students killed in the crash. The identity mix-up wasn't discovered until five weeks later."

 

Second Link text:
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RAVENNA: Ed Slattery spoke out, wanting to send a message not only to the trucker who killed his wife and maimed his teenage son, but also to the entire trucking industry.


The Maryland widower hopes his message came with an exclamation point as a remorseful Douglas Bouch received a five-year prison sentence Thursday. The punishment was far more severe than Slattery expected.


The two men had never seen each other until Bouch’s final appearance in Portage County Common Pleas Court, where he previously pleaded guilty to charges of aggravated vehicular assault and aggravated vehicular homicide.


Bouch, 49, entered the plea with no deal in place. His company’s insurance company paid a $41 million settlement with no lawsuit ever being filed. He pledged to never drive a semi again.


The trucker, from Greenville, Pa., offered no defense to the charges. He admitted at the crash scene to falling asleep. He gave a tearful apology in court.


“I can’t comprehend what the family is going through and I don’t have the words to describe how sorrowful I am,” Bouch said.


Dr. Susan Slattery, a math professor at Stevenson University in Maryland, was killed Aug. 16, 2010, when Bouch fell asleep while driving his truck on the Ohio Turnpike in Portage County. The Slatterys’ sons, Matthew, then 12, and Peter, then 16, were critically injured.



While Peter Slattery has recovered from a fractured pelvis, Matthew Slattery had life-altering injuries. He has difficulty communicating and can walk just 100 feet and uses a walker.


It was Bouch’s admission of falling asleep that likely fueled the felony charges, his attorney, Errol Can, said in court. Ed Slattery acknowledged the crash was an accident, but it was an avoidable tragedy, he told Judge John Enlow before sentencing.


“I do not seek revenge from Mr. Bouch,” Slattery told a packed courtroom. “I do, however, seek justice and to send a message to truckers that there are consequences to making bad decisions.”



Slattery’s points were directed just as fiercely at the trucking industry as at the trucker himself. He pointed out Bouch’s medical history -- sleep apnea and migraines -- as well as his sketchy record of handling the triple-trailered rigs still allowed in Ohio.


Bouch, hauling three box trailers, rear-ended Susan Slattery’s car, triggering an eight-vehicle crash in Shalersville Township. The 47-year-old mother, who was driving her children home to suburban Baltimore, died at the scene.


Her sons were taken to Akron Children’s Hospital. Matthew Slattery has required months of physical therapy; Peter Slattery suffered a fractured eye socket and pelvis.


Last year, Ed Slattery donated $100,000 to the hospital to create the Peter and Matthew Slattery Fund to aid children whose families can’t afford to continue physical therapy.



Slattery, 55, said Bouch needed prison to serve as an example to the trucking industry. Backing up his point, the retired economist cited statistics showing commercial trucks account for more than 3,500 deaths every year in the United States.


“That’s 9/11 every year,” he said.


Outside court, Slattery said he had expected Bouch to be given probation. At best, he hoped it would be one or two years in prison. He said he would support an earlier release date. He also hopes that one day they can meet again and perhaps work together on a public awareness campaign on trucker safety.


Slattery volunteers with the Truck Safety Coalition in an effort to make the roads safer. He plans to reach out to Bouch during his prison stint.


“I think it would help him to heal, and I think it will help me heal,” he said."