Dual logbook question

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Old Man, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    A truck driver who fell asleep at the wheel in Phoenix and triggered a crash that killed a 22-year-old man has been sentenced to one year in jail and two years of supervised probation.

    Superior Court Judge Roland Steinle delivered the sentence to Brian Knoll, 55, on Oct. 30 after emotional testimony from both the victim's family and Knoll's friends .

    Knoll, 55, had been charged with manslaughter, aggravated assault and endangerment in the November 2014 crash but agreed to a plea deal in September in which he admitted to three counts of endangerment. The other charges were dropped.

    He is scheduled to surrender himself to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office on Friday. As part of his jail time, Knoll will take part in a work furlough program, which means he will be released from custody for work but must return to the jail every night, according to a Maricopa County Superior Court official.

    Court documents show Knoll had been driving a semitruck filled with concrete pavers northbound on Interstate 17 when he started to fall asleep. That's when Knoll crashed into several vehicles near the Bell Road underpass, setting newlyweds Sarah and Paul Troupe's car on fire. Paul Troupe was pronounced dead at a hospital.

    Authorities initially alleged that Knoll fell asleep after having taken muscle relaxers, but a toxicology report proved Knoll was not impaired at the time of the crash, according to court testimony.

    The Troupe family, including the victim's wife, explained to Steinle during the sentencing hearing that they forgave Knoll for his actions but that no amount of punishment would bring Paul back to them.

    "Paul is my best friend," said Doug Troupe, Paul's father. "He will always be my best friend."

    Sarah Troupe explained to the judge that she can no longer enjoy her favorite things in life since Paul died.

    In a letter addressed to Steinle, Knoll's daughter explained that her father is the most caring person she knows, continues to be guilt-ridden and has accepted full responsibility for the tragedy."
     
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  3. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    I did a search on Robert Spencer.

    The second guy told cops he slept 3 hrs and 20 minutes before he started his shift at 03:00.

    They all plead guilty so they had no chance of getting off but yes I see there are guys that went away without breaking HOS rules.
     
  4. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    So you admit I found two in a five minute search. Thanks!
    Look, I know you have to be right all the time, but sometime you simply are not. People have got to jail for things other than HOS.
     
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  5. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Yes you’re right See edit
     
  6. S M D

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    Yep. I run one(aobrd) but can do whatever i please. As long as fuel matches. Yesterday was a 1100 mile day :)
     
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  7. Jazz1

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    Too many variables as others have stated trying to run two ELD's.

    I got a ticket for not having log book up to date(1986),,I had passed inspector the wrong book. I went to court,, knowing how lazy gov't workers are and the fact he never took photo copies of my book. Went to court, showed judge my log book and that i had entered the same date 2 days in a row. Judge tossed it out and gave inspector the hairy eyeball and a few words for wasting my time as well as the courts.
     
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  8. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    So if you just woke up from a 10 hour nap and kill somebody driving out of the parking lot, the courts are going to be fine and just let you walk away, pretty sure not.
     
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  9. Tb0n3

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    It doesn't show flagrant disregard for the law, which makes a world of difference.
     
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  10. rank

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    Correct. It makes a difference. There’s a good chance if those two guys were able to plead not guilty they would’ve got away without jail. As it is Robert Spencer plead guilty and only served a year
     
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  11. Tombstone69

    Tombstone69 Road Train Member

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    I used to buy a log book at the truck stop,take the staples out, put it in a clip board and if I didn't like the way the day was going, pull that page and start another.15minutes every stop,too.
     
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