Catastrophic mx13 failure at 2600km

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  1. Hero Biscuit vendor

    Hero Biscuit vendor Bobtail Member

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    Don't mean to troll paccar folks by posting this, just wanted to share it, cause a blown brand new engine is relatively rare.

    Was hauling fuel and picked up brand new truck at body manufacturer, drove it 2000km home and quit my job a week later. Went back towing and yesterday one of the guys towed in the very same truck with a rod through the pan.

    One of the drivers pulled over reporting a knock, boss went out and revved it 3 times and BANG it shat the bed. Never even made it's first delivery :(

    T880 18sp estimated gw 34000kg at time of failure. Don't know what hp/tq it was set at, but I thought it was underpowered when I drove it, but ran good. Did have coolant smell, wondering if it hydrolocked. I tried uploading a pic of new drain location in pan but I can't figure out how.
     
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  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Stuff happens. Could have been a bad rod/piston assembly. Maybe they forgot to torque one of the caps at the factory?
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  4. Hero Biscuit vendor

    Hero Biscuit vendor Bobtail Member

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    When I drove it the brake lights were programmed on with the Jakes and I missed a few up splits trying to keep the lights from blipping. Got overspeed warning on dash when it revved on the pedal. Hope I didn't void their warranty or I won't be popular. I can't see it having overspeed counts on ecm unless you overspeed it down a hill. I guess I'm just paranoid as I don't work there now and I'm not going back anyway. It ran fine when I drove it last
     
  5. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Most if not all engine ECM's have a histogram that keeps track of things like that. With an electronic engine blipping the throttle shouldn't typically put the RPM into danger territory but things like overspeeding the engine on a downhill could as there are outside forces at work now.
     
  6. Hero Biscuit vendor

    Hero Biscuit vendor Bobtail Member

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    Yeah I never held it in too low of a gear down a grade so I'm prob fine. If they claim it was oversped when they plug in, and revving it puts it into overspeed there will be three counts at time of failure anyway and I no longer worked there :)
     
  7. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    Why you jake shifting a new engine and empty at that .. that old school crap has wrecked 1000’s of transmissions over the years for no reason other than laziness to turn a switch off and on
     
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  8. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    My truck has a super 10, so even empty starting out on an upgrade, I need the engine brake to make the button shifts. OP's was an 18, so maybe the same issue.
     
  9. Hero Biscuit vendor

    Hero Biscuit vendor Bobtail Member

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    Fair enough I guess it is laziness leaving the switch on. The other truck I drove had the smaller isx and I never noticed Jakes burping when I shifted. A lot of times I was doing deliveries on a lot of winding hilly back roads and would have been flipping Jake switch 100
    times a day.
     
  10. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    I used the engine fan, found it would slow the engine down fast enough to make a quick shift when I was on a hill in low range.
     
  11. Hero Biscuit vendor

    Hero Biscuit vendor Bobtail Member

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    I'm going to be called stupid but the 1.5 years I drove for them the Jakes were on 99% of the time. Unless it was glare ice they were on. Even packed or loose snow they were on. I found it far more likely to lock up (potential toboggan) under service brake. when steers began to loose traction turning, letting off throttle and on Jakes put weight on them and they hooked up.
     
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