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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by 06driver, Jan 5, 2019.

  1. BrandonCDLdriver

    BrandonCDLdriver Road Train Member

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    How do you define "new driver" and "older driver"? Is older one with grey hair or no hair at all? How many years of experience? How many years of local driving equals 1 year OTR? How many years of OTR equal 1 year local? There is no way to compile this data without actual definitions of this stuff.

    How do you define what caused an accident? What if the driver of the rig was tired but someone cut him off and no amount of sleep would change that? How do you define "tired?" How do you define "drug use?" OTC drugs? Prescription? Illegal narcotics only?

    To many variables to collect this data and use it in any kind of meaningful way. Can you tell I have a college degree with a minor in statistics? Yea I get off on these stat tangents sometimes LOL
     
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  3. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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  4. wore out

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    Funny thing about tanker yankers, all they wanna do is suck and blow.
     
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  5. Hulld

    Hulld Road Train Member

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    Yea but what about the US road truck in your Bing image search?
    That’s not a cattle truck.
    Fake news
     
  6. Long FLD

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    The thing I noticed, other than some foreign trucks, is they all seem to be single vehicle accidents in the pictures. They don’t seem to be smashing into a line of slow traffic or taking out vehicles in a construction zone.

    I appreciate the amount of effort you put into your trolling. Keep up the good work.
     
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  7. Humblepie

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    How many of those wrecks have you seen in real life? I’ve seen one in 18 or 19 years driving. I’ve seen hundreds of other trucks involved in crashes
     
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  8. shogun

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    And a lot of these accidents are layovers, which tends to be more prevalent when you haul freight that has a high center of gravity and moves around constantly.

    Take your average mega carrier driver and put them hauling livestock and you would break the internet searching cattle truck wrecks.
     
  9. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Well, like most things that are comparative, they should be defined in different categories. First and foremost the singular category should be drivers thrown into a truck with a trainer while the trainer sleeps and the driver drives with no experience. As long as they have all the information, how many years the driver has been driving etcetera, it's very simple to put that into different categories. Driver's training with megas, drivers with 2 to 5 years experience drivers with 5 to 10 years experience, they can put it in any way that they choose to because they have the data for that. The problem is they don't do that. And if they do, I would like to see that.

    The only way you can do that is the way it's been done since police have investigated accidents. You have to go by what the police say. If the police say that it was an automated braking system that caused the problem or it was a distracted driver or it was a speeding driver, then that's what you have to go by. I don't know of any other accurate way to gauge why an accident happened except for the investigation the police did on that accident.

    Same answer as above. Driver has an accident then he is drug tested. Were there drugs in his system? Problem Solved. And because they have all the data they could even Define it down to accident by drug type.

    Like I said as long as they have collected the data they could break that down into a whole bunch of different ways any which way that they want and an intelligent statistical person like you understands how that could skew things or put things more towards the truth. How the data is put together determines the statistic.

    For example, if you just lump all trucking accidents as Trucking accidents and you don't Define the category of drivers thrown into a truck with no experience, then that statistic skews things. It skews things because on the surface it appears Trucking is unsafe we need drivers to be safer so all drivers are unsafe. In reality, in this example, it isn't that all drivers are unsafe, it means THAT SEGMENT of driver's is unsafe.

    Statistics and probabilities are great, but they really are used to attempt to predict what the odds are of something happening in the future based on data from the past or present.

    I have no interest in predicting anyting. I just would like to see the facts as they are to determine what actually has happened from the data collected, more like a detective than a statistician.
     
  10. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    Is this a Mega truck?

     
  11. shogun

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    No, that guy was the top driver at Crete 10 years. And FYI, the customer asked him to back into the pickup, push those bins out of the way and drive through the ditch.
     
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